Originally Posted By: L. Brown

Well Kyrie . . . I guess our definition of "very nice" is different . . . or else perhaps you didn't look at the descriptions of that treasure trove of Gunbroker guns you tout so highly.

Here's what my search on Gunbroker turns up, for used Spanish sxs:

I find a total of 8 guns between $4-600. (I actually broadened the criteria a bit: From $350-700.) 2 of them are 10 gauges. (If you want a cheap 10ga sxs, Spanish is an OK way to go.) There's a 26" 12ga for $425 . . . sounds good until you spot that 12 1/2" LOP. Thought I had a real winner with a Stoeger Zephyr for $ 700 . . . until I saw the 24 1/2" barrels. Then there's a decent looking Uggie for $700 . . . but it has a very visible crack (repaired, it says--looks like with Elmer's glue!) in the toe of the stock. And a "light" ZH 12ga, at only $475 . . . although "light" is defined as 7 pounds. And another Zephyr 12ga for $535 . . . with rust on the water table. And it looks as if several of these Spanish sweethearts are stocked with top grade Iberian beech. Sorry . . . not a winner in the bunch. If I want a gun for that kind of money, I'm going to look around for an Ithaca SKB 100 12ga somewhere around the top end of your price range. (Which, by the way, is pretty much a Japanese copy of a W&S 700.)

But hey Kyrie . . . thanks for the trip through the Spanish junkyard. There's an old saying that goes "The devil is in the details." Looks to me like you missed a whole flock of devils in your gunbroker search.


Funny the way you didnt provide any links or auction numbers so people could verify your descriptions. Nice try :-)

Lets do that again, but with links so people can see the guns.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=480954602
Zabala Hermanos, 12 gauge, ejectors, SST, factory cut for (Beretta) choke tubes, $500.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=480758464
12 gauge, looks like a 1960s gun, $425.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=480753620
Ugartechea, 12 gauge, English stock, toe repair, $560.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=480645980
Zabala Hermanos, 12 gauge, ejectors, 1960s gun (tax salvage import), stock showing some cracking at the action, $275.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=479989148
AyA 12 gauge, SST, FI gun, toe damage, $610.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=480931558
Another AyA 12 gauge, SST, $499.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=479967184
Another Zabala Hermanos, 12 gauge, Buy It Now $275.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=480588802
Another Zabala Hermanos, looks like a 1960s gun, 12 gauge, Buy It Now $350.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=480961152
Anoth Zabala Hermanos, 12 gauge, ejectors, SST, factory cut for (Beretta) choke tubes, $599

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=481051134
Laurona, 12 gauge, 1960s gun, $395.

Now lets compare some of those Webley & Scott model 700 guns Larry is so fond of:

http://www.gunsinternational.com/WEBLEY-SCOTT-12-ga-MODEL-700-S-x-SBOXLOCK.cfm?gun_id=100551592
WEBLEY & SCOTT - MODEL 700 -12 GAUGE - S x S BOXLOCK - 26" BLS. $3,900.

http://www.gunsinternational.com/WEBLEY-SCOTT-MODEL-700-BOXLOCK-12GA-SHOTGUN.cfm?gun_id=100548385
WEBLEY & SCOTT, MODEL 700 12GA SHOTGUN, S/S, 26" BBL, 2 3/4, $3,400

http://www.gunsinternational.com/Webley-Scott-Model-700-12-ga.cfm?gun_id=100534312
Webley & Scott - Model 700 - 12 ga, $2,850.

Do the math, and decide if having the name Webley & Scott on a gun is worth an additional $2,000 - $3,000 to you. Because a name is all that extra money is buying you.