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It is my understanding that the early guns were etched instead of engraved. There is a difference between the engraving (on the first gun I showed)on the sideplate and the top of the action. The engraving on the sideplate is very fine or not as deep. The top of the action is typical engraving and much more pronounced.
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reb, No. 692 is different than any shown so far...If you'll post pics of 692's innards, I'll post pics of No.38 for comparison, and we'll all learn about Baker development...also...Did you notice how many auction guns had the barrel lump engraved by a different hand than the rest of the gun? The guns look so clean the they must be the original barrels, I think.?.
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Great photos, guys. Robert, what do you see that is different on 692 from the others? Is it the engraving style you are talking about?
thanks,
Gordon
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Robert, I would love to see the back side of the locks. Then you will know if it has the firing pin interceptors as well. I love putting the locks back on. Sometimes they safety and firing pin interceptors line right up. Sometimes I must close the door so no one can hear me talking.
It does appear that not only did the bridle attachment change, but the profile of the locks seem to be slightly less rounded and possibly narrower on the rear of plate, on the early bridle attachment locks. I did notice how the name brand and city of manufacture script/lettering changes. I have Paragon 397, A 2925, B's 2112,5947,5956,6111 and Leader 98476. These all have the later locks.
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No.38 with the locks removed  . No.38 lock compared to the more modern lock No.3252   No bridle
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  Gordon, the only difference is the number of pins or screws showing on the outside of the sideplates. They are often a good indicator of what's on the inside...
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Robert, LOVE the pictures! Good job on showing the details. This has been a very good thread and learning experience for me.The locks are so similiar and yet so very different. The earlier locks with all the differences. The sear springs being flat springs. The stops for the hammers. The extension on the lock plates to house the main springs. Good going!
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Robert and all, thanks for all the info. Very informative since the A grade gun that I started the thread with is my first Baker.
Gordon
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Robert,
Very nice instructional pics, Thanks.
I will try to get pics taken later today/tonight. I am trying to get the last of our corn planted today so I can switch over to soybeans. Its a busy time of year for me right now. I did see some Pheasants yesterday.
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Did a little looking at patents and think that the later style lock may have been bought with George Clines single trigger patent-- # 748,268. I can't seem to find any patents on the earlier lock, does anyone have a Baker with pat.#'s???
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