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That's a beauty!

A beautiful C grade there!

I have an early D ejector, mfg in '94 from what I have found.
Lots of work needed to restore, but no cut bbls or wood.
I just need the time.
My first Remington shotgun project in a long time. They are
nicely made shotguns.

Very nice. One of the most underrated American doubles, and certainly my favorite.

KY Jon....You are so correct about the addictive qualities of the Rem 1894. My first one is a 10 ga AE made in 1910. It has 32" barrels and the pellet count #'s are both in the 340 range, tight and tight. Although all the case color is gone from the exterior of the action, the action is dead tight. I bought this gun at Albright's in Easton Md a couple of years ago, with the intention of using it on late season divers here on Champlain. Thanks to all I've read here and in the Double Gun Journal, I have loaded many low pressure non toxic loads for this gun, and it has accounted for many goldeneyes over the last couple of seasons.

As luck would have it, a friend's father told me he had "an old 10 ga" also. When he showed it too me and I remarked that it was the same model I had, he started campaigning to have me buy his 1894. Make me an offer he said. I didn't feel like insulting him, but I didn't want to pay what I paid for the first one either. Eventually we came to an agreement and I would up paying half of what the first gun cost me. It is an A model with 28" barrels and when I weighed them both, the shorter gun came in 2 pounds lighter. You can guess which one I'll be carrying around the turkey woods...

Both stocks are too short for me, so I added a slip on pad to each. I also put one of the Beretta gel cheek pieces 1/4" thick on each.

Neither gun is in the same league condition wise as what you guys have shown here (love that 16 ga), but they're tight, and I have great faith in them. All I need now is a 20 ga for jump shooting wood ducks.

Mergus

Has anyone come up with a higher grade Remington Hammerless Double 10-gauge? I remember that Ben Loving had a CEO-Grade 10-gauge for sale for quite a while, but it had been restocked. Another friend has shown me pictures of his CEO-Grade 10-gauge, but it has whacked barrels.

None of the Remington Arms Co. catalogues I have ever offer the 10-gauge in anything but 30- and 32-inch barrels. I'd be very suspicious that a 28-inch barrel 10-gauge had been whacked.

That CEO-Grade 16-gauge would look nice next to my DEO-Grade --

Researcher, since the muzzle of my 28" gun looks the same as the muzzle of my 32" gun, it never occurred to me that it might have been whacked. Now I have to go check.....

Mergus

I would not be surprised if every D grade and most C grades were made to order to a large extent. By that I mean if you contacted them to build you such a gun they would have made the barrels 28, 30, or 32". Now convention for 10 ga. might have been 30 or 32 but a 28" should have been available upon request. Since I have no 28" I have no way to tell but will gladly accept all free Remington 1894's as others wish to send me.

Remington Hammerless Double Barrel Shotgun Barrel Lengths

From the Remington Arms Co. catalogue dated October 1894, that introduced of the Remington Hammerless Double Barrel Shotgun, they were offered in 12-gauge with 28-, 30- or 32-inch barrels and 10-gauge with 30- or 32-inch barrels. In 1897 steel barrels were added to the offerings and they introduced the 16-gauge, offered with 28-, 30- or 32-inch barrels. Barrel length offerings remained the same through the second 1901 catalogue. Beginning with the first 1902 Remington Arms Co. catalogue they offered 26-inch barrels in 12- and 16-gauges on C-Grades and higher. By the 1906 Remington Arms Co. catalogues the 32-inch 16-gauge barrels were dropped from the offerings. The barrel length offerings remained the same through the 1908 Remington Arms Co. catalogue. In the 1908-09 and the 1909 Remington Arms Co. catalogues they added 26-inch barrel 12- and 16-gauge guns to the A-quality listings. 26-inch barrels never appear for the B-quality guns?

The above is what the Remington Arms Co. catalogues listed. I know of 100% righteous Parker Bros., Ithaca Gun Co. and A.H. Fox Gun Co. doubles with barrel lengths that were never catalogue offerings, so have to feel that Remington Arms Co. would do the same. I'd feel more comfortable with a non-standard length that otherwise checks out (amount of choke measured roughly coinciding with the pellet counts on the lug) on a C-, D-, E- or Special quality gun, all of which carried the "Made to order only" caveat, then on an A-, B- or K-quality "made for stock gun."

On my 1894 10 ga with the 28" barrels, both muzzles measure out to .760". The serial # is P136xxx, which Semmer's book puts as a 1908 manufacture.

Again, the ends of the barrels looks exactly like the ends of my 10 ga 32" barreled gun.

I am reminded of what I've learned about Colt pistols, "never say never" when it comes to what may or may not have been done way back then.

Mergus

PS. I took the butt plate off the 28" gun and found that there are 3 over lapping 3/4" holes drilled most of the length of the butt stock. Factory? I haven't a clue. Nothing in Semmer's book addresses that either.

I have a A,B,C, and F grade Remingtons 1894 models. The C grade I bought 5 or 6 years ago was in very nice shape with great wood - paid $3000. Some time later I called the fellow to tell him how much I enjoyed it and was told he made a mistake on remembering what he had bought it for - $4000 - but he said a deal was a deal. What is the one you want to buy worth? Hard to say - it all depends on condition. On mine the case colors were gone but the Damascus pattern was good, screws were good, no pitting inside or outside on the barrels, and really great wood. I've had Bachelder redo the barrels and case coloring. I'd want at least $4500 if I ever sold it - but I won't. There weren't that many C grades made.