I don't know what world you guys are living in but NID's and now even Nitro Specials are pricey. You can't find an NID at any of the gun shows around here in 16, 20, 28 (Hah!!) or .410 for under 12 to 15 hundred. And Nitro Specials (yes, Ted, they are a damned good gun! Pretty, not really, but damned useful and with a lot better handling dynamics than any other hardware store gun) in 12 gauge sell for 400-500 with the smaller bores going for much more. Wish I could find me a nice 20 ga. NID for under a grand. Chopper.