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I believe your rifle may have originally been an NRA Sporter. The stock work looks like one of the cheaper modifications done by Griffin & Howe in the 1930's. I have a 1922M1 that has similar features but no Griffin and Howe name on the barrel. I have documentation that my rifle was shipped from Springfield Armory to G & H. Michael Petrov identified my rifle from pictures I sent that it was G & H work. The small filled hole just forward of the butt swivel base suggests that it was an NRA stock but if it came on an NRA Sporter it would have crossbolts. It could have been a stock off a Model of 1922 Springfield. If it has the small mortised out place in the front of the magazine well to allow for insertion of the magazine that pretty much proves that it was a stock for a .22. cal. Regardless of the lack of some of the NRA Sporter Sporter features features I suspect that is what it was. serial no. 1277XXX falls in the midst of a bunch of NRA Sporter serial numbers. A star gauge number on the barrel under the fore end would indicate that it was an NRA Sporter barrel. I apologize for long and rambling post but my guess is that the maker was Griffin & Howe. If you can obtain a copy of Petrov's Volume 2, look in Chapter 4, Depression Era Sporters.
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Hi Hershel, I do not think this could be an Armory stock. If you look at the first picture the top line of the stock is level all the way to the loading port cutout. The armory stocks began to taper down about half way back the receiver ring. The cheek piece also does not look added. I realize that G&H could add a cheek piece to an armory stock if the customer requested, but this does not look to be one of those additions. In the second set of pictures, the inletting looks way to good to be armory work. The armory stocks generally had plenty of clearance, particularly at the rear tang. Lastly I believe what you see in front of the rear sling swivel stud is a dent from the swivel making contact with the stock. There is a similar but lighter dark spot behind the swivel stud. It is also to close to be the other base hole. But I do agree that it started life as an NRA sporter.
The sling swivels are Hart arms swivels. After closer inspection, I believe it is a Hart Arms stocked rifle.
John
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I agree with John. The parallel bottom of the cheek rest is always suspicious as Dubiel or Hart Arms if other things line up. There are some hard and fast rules on these but not many. Identification is more art than science. That is a nice rifle and a great find. If it were mine I would tidy up the screws, find a top for the mount and use as is. Very Nice!!!
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I don't know if this is a reasonable contribution to this tread or not, but it may help someone else. Here is a soon-to-expire link to a Hart Arms sidemount that was on ebay several months ago. Hart sidemount
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The new pictures do show the slight radius on the top half of the receiver ring. I think that clinches this as an NRA sporter.
Bill Ferguson
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Has the owner posted the serial number so we can look it up in SRS?
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Kutter sent the serial number to me, it is an NRA Sporter.
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John, I agree with you about the stock. My G & H rifle has a filled hole that looks very much like the ding in the subject rifle. I was making too much of that dark spot in trying to identify the stock.
Since the rifles is listed on SRS you can get a letter from them showing to whom, date of sale and city of residence of the original purchaser. It would be interesting to see if the initials on the floor plate are those of the original purchaser.
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Sorry for the poor scan, but if you look at the rifle on the left, that is what I believe you have. Obviously the rifle in question does not have the quarter rib. John
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Gasgunner, what is the rear sight in the picture above?
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