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I stumbled into a cased Bernardelli today and I took a chance. I know the leather case is not original to the gun but it is nice case nonetheless. My problem is that I do not know which model Bernardelli I ended up with. Gun has double triggers, 28" barrels, 12 Ga. fixed M/F chokes, ejectors but they were disabled with the springs in the case and sling swivels. It came with a woven leather sling as well.

When I looked at the gun someone had printed and included a schematic for a Gamecock which it is my understanding was a registered name used by Stoeger. I looked the gun over carefully and it is not marked Stoeger anywhere. Also it has always been my understanding that guns built and imported into the states usually did not include sling swivels since this was more a European thing... Finally I do not believe the Gamecock came with much in the way of engraving. But the dealer felt that it must be a Gamecock due to the printed schematics in the case and priced it accordingly...

So my question is, is this a Gamecock or something else? In looking it over I am thinking more along the lines of a Roma 6 maybe???

Anyhow I have attached some pick for reference and your viewing pleasure. Let me know what you think as I cannot find a model indication or even a year of production anywhere on the gun.

Looks like a Roma 6 to me.

Here's an example:

http://www.mwreynolds.com/HTML/shotBernardellRoma6E2028set.html

Have fun shooting her!

Greg

The Roma series are shown on this thread
http://www.ilbraccoitaliano.net/forum/showthread.php?t=45549&page=29&langid=1
The hounds and stag were on the Roma 6
http://www.gunstech.ch/catalog/product_i...c753c984e2e227f

That's not taking a chance, that is taking advantage. Nice move.

Nice gun a Roma 6 for sure .

Gamecock was a name used by Stoeger. Agree that it's a Roma 6. However, I'm pretty sure that both the standard Gamecock (no sideplates) and the Gamecock Premier (false plates, looks like a Roma 3) use the same action as all the Roma-series guns. You just got one with much nicer cosmetics.

Short tang trigger guard would indicate it's one of the later Bernies, I think.

Gamecock is a Vincenzo Bernardelli model name. Woodcock was another. Stoeger was the importer of V. Bernardellis back in the '50s and '60s, and maybe beyond, I don't remember. None were ever made as a Stoeger. Galef (sp?) used to import Berettas.

Based on the date code (AP) inside a box it appears the gun was built in 1986 also the front trigger is articulated.

There are some dings in the finish and it appears the finish has lifted in places around the buttplate. It has a gloss finish. Any thoughts on the pros and cons of stripping the stock and forend then restain and apply an oil finish??? Or will this substantially reduce the value????? I am thinking the gun is should be in the $1500 to $1800 value in it's current state.

Thanks for all the input...
Don

It sure has a tight pistol grip. Myself, and everybody I know, prefer a much more relaxed grip, given the choice. The LOP looks short in the photos, as well.

It would be a hard sell in my neck of the woods with those two features. I think some of the guys who grind clays all day like a grip like that, but, my group isn't as serious about grinding clay as we are about drinking beer when it is time to put the guns away.


Best,
Ted

I don't believe Bernardelli ever designated a gun "Gamecock". Pretty sure that was a name Stoeger came up with, but not sure when. My Shooter's Bible (1961) still refers to the base model Bernardelli as "San Umberto 1", which later became the Gamecock model. I've never heard of a Bernardelli "Woodcock" model. John Boyd, former Bernardelli importer, would likely know for sure. In that 1961 catalog, the Roma 6 sold for 3x the price of a San Umberto 1 ($450 vs $150).

I'm not a huge fan of that pistol grip either. But with the nice hard case, I'd say it's at least a $2,000 gun. That's not a lot more than the current price for an entry level Uggie. Mark Beasland recently had a new in the box Gamecock 12ga. As I remember, he had it priced around $1400, which I thought was a good deal in today's market.