I remember getting 10 packs of Bismuth Cartridge Company 1&1/8oz upland loads on sale for $13 per pack about 15 years ago. That is excellent price. It will work nicely in my WWII vintage Ithaca 37 with full choke barrel. Thirteen hundred fifty feet per second with 1&1/8oz will be very effective load if it patterns nicely. Will have to throw on "instant" Limbsaver pad from Walmart on the gun though. Thank you.