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I hope to have the OPTION to hunt every day when I retire. Even getting out for 45minutes to an hour is good exercise and does my mind a world of good. Deer hunting can be similar. Spending the whole day out in the woods for a couple of weeks is tiring. A few hours in the morning or evening, not so much. I love it when the Blue Grouse are close to home. I do not chase them all the time but it is nice to get out for a short hunt regularly.

CrapperZapper, what about the reality of having spent your working years employed doing hard physical labor for low wages and no benefits? What do you do for retirement income when your employer did not pay into Social Security for you? I guess you just work until you die.



Good Lord, if I admitted to taking advantage of cheap illegal labor and cheating and abusing them, King Brown would be shouting about it from every mountaintop. But I guess you get a pass from King because you support the same Liberal Left anti-gunners as he does.

I figure ClapperZapper's post about taking advantage of illegals was in jest. I sure hope so.

I guess I'm going to have to retire pretty soon; forty five years of practicing law is about enough. This thread is sort of a bummer, but it is good to consider the options. Me, I been here all my life, so I guess this is where I'll stay. McDonald's you say?...Geo

Satire is in short supply here. I welcome it when I see it.

You're another success, Geo: doing what you want to do where you want to live.

My father just retired at 92. I will not be so blessed with good health and longevity. He waited too long and now has limited chances to do things in retirement he might have done earlier. Health is declining, my mother has passed and almost all famy and friends his age are gone. You should retire at 20, go to work at 35 and work until you die I think.

Seeing his example I have decided to work until 75 if able but add more time off as I go. I am taking off three weeks this year to hunt birds, three weeks to visit or host family and two weeks for holidays. If that sounds like a lot it is for me. In the last 40 years I have never taken off more than two weeks total per year. If it goes well I intend to add one more week hunting next year and the year after that. Ten weeks off should keep me rested but still working enough to pay the bills. If my kids had loved me enough to get B's and C's I could have saved a million dollars in Ivy Leage College expenses. Oh well it's time to go back to work. Do what you want when you can because tomorrow is not guaranteed to anyone.

I was retired from 2003-2008. When one kid started college and the other med school, it was time to hit the bricks again. Work is overrated as a way of life unless necessary. Being a serial hobbyist all of my life, I had plenty to do. I've always thought that full time employement was a Calvinistic plot. Some work to live; others live to work; a fortunate few just live. Dad retired at age 78 when his VA disability hit 100%. He could have retired earlier and when I asked why he didn't, his reply: "Would you want to stay home all the time with someone like YOUR mother?" I undertstood. Some folks have all the luck in choosing parents. Prince Charles comes to mind..

You think King?

I compete against slave labor. Why would I want anyone's sons to live like a slave? For a cheaper carpet install?

One of the odd things about imagineering with my lovely wife was how unimaginative her desires had become. She wanted new drapes. It was a huge move to get her to take Ukelele lessons. Now she plays in a band.

So, again, imagine deeply, allocate time in a restful manner, match resources, make choices.

In mid life I took a 6 yr retirement I guess for practice and lived in a tent and bummed around the country running traplines and hunting through the fall and winter. At 42 I decided to go back to work and put together a decent grubstake for the next retirement so I wouldn't have to bother with the odd jobs in the off season.

We retired to the WA coast, it is never hot, never really cold and you don't have to shovel rain. Duck hunting is incredible, the forests abound with bobcat, mountain lions, coyotes, bear, elk and deer.

My wife has her own motor home when she has the notion she heads to warmer climates in the winter. After hunting season is over up here, I hunt upland from the coast here to the Dakotas and waterfowl all over WA plus my passion for hunting coyotes everywhere. I head south hunting coyotes through NV, UT, AZ and NM catching up with her in lat Feb. spending a month or so basking in the sun sightseeing and coyote hunting before we make a slow trek back to WA to enjoy the summers here.

Find a nice low maintenance home base that you could go to if things get tough, doctors, close stores etc. and get mobile, I have a van set up with a bunk that I can hunt out of and live in, I've met hunting partners all over the west and everywhere you go there is so much interesting stuff to see. One year my wife and I spent much of the spring pursuing the best chili cheeseburger in NM(Sparky's in Hatch, NM). It is surprising all the folks from around the country that we've met on the road also. Do you know there is a RV campground outside of Douglas, AZ that is a trap shooting mecca, The rifle range outside of Tucson has RV sights and there is free camping on BLM land all over the west.

I sure hope so too Geo, but if you consider the totality of what he has told us in recent weeks, it seems plausible that he did indeed take advantage of cheap Illegal Immigrant labor for his personal enrichment. But he also gives us his recommendations on what should be done to stop the bleeding from the damage it has caused. And then he continues to support and defend and vote for the anti-gun Liberal Democrats who are propping the door open along the border and preventing enforcement of our immigration laws and calling for amnesty for law-breakers. So you tell me.

I think you'll do just fine in retirement Geo. I tried it a few years ago for a year, but when I did the math of paying for medical insurance and college tuition for two kids at the same time, plus all the other costs of living, I realized I would possibly run out of money before I died. I'm still a long way from Social Security and Medicare, and the cost of health insurance has only skyrocketed since ObamaCare passed. Not wishing to spend my golden years eating Ol' Roy dog food, I went back to work. As Gil said earlier, there is a lot to be said for not going to work every day. I kept extremely busy and was never at a loss for things to do. You will wonder how you ever had time to go to work.

I've always felt though, that a better system would be to collect your pension and Social security for about 20 years after you get out of high school and college, live it up while you are young enough to really enjoy it, and then work until you die.

I've turkey hunted the Flint Hills around Alma quite a few times. Awesome hunting!!!! Usually saw a lot of quail. I wouldn't mind living there.