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You've got my curiosity up, Paul. I'll be looking for Cyril's new book.
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At 76 , Cyril is wrapping up his second book on shot gun shooting currently. I sat and overheard a lengthy call between the author and his publisher this summer. We were in attendance at a FITASC Helice world cup event , and between rounds , Cyril was trying desperately to explain to his publisher that their suggested collaboration between the author and a non shooting editor was becoming rather frustrating.....
I can feel his pain concerning the editor. I did the first edition of my pheasant hunting book with Iowa State University Press. No helpful advice from a shooting/hunting editor. The second edition, with Countrysport Press, is a much better book. I'd like to think part of that is due to the changes I made, but I'll readily admit that most of the improvements came as a result of working with an editor who's a fellow bird hunter. That being said, if you have a hardback copy of the first edition, hang onto it. Only about 300 came off the press (and I'm pretty sure that I sold most of them based on ads I ran in Double Gun Journal). The result is that it has some collector value, if less "literary" value than the 2nd edition.
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I don't thin that frustration caused by a non-shooting editor is a new experience. Charley Waterman mentioned the problem in one of his books and if you have read Waterman, you know that it was funny.
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COL. Townsend Whelen, GEN Julian Hatcher, COL Charlie Askins to name a few.
I see no one mentioned Boddington and I am not disappointed there. he just rubs me the wrong way.
I think a lot of the guys mentioned are good for their respective eras but take the depth and breadth of knowledge that many of todays writers have and I don't think there is a comparison to be made. Some are entertaining, some are very factual and detail oriented, and some are good story tellers. But the guys who go with technical details and facts and combine that with good writing have it hands down.
If I gave my opinion (FWIW) about some of the "Icons " of days gone by, I would be called a heretic and cast into the fires of hell. LOL.
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I don't thin that frustration caused by a non-shooting editor is a new experience. Charley Waterman mentioned the problem in one of his books and if you have read Waterman, you know that it was funny. I know an editor, who shall remain nameless, who sent Charley a letter and told him he needed to use more punctuation. Charley sent him a reply which consisted of a page of commas, periods, semicolons, etc. Told the editor to use them wherever he felt appropriate.
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I know folks who either worked, fished or hunted with Charley Waterman and they are unanimous in their opinion that he was a great guy to know and be around. Genuine and without an ounce of pretension.
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Ted,
wasn't Gough Thomas's Gun an 28" Atkin 12 bore.I remember him writing that he ordered it as long as it was made "to your finest pre war standards" or such wording.
It seemed he liked it very much indeed,especially the ease of opening n closing..i believe it was an assisted or self opener...he seemed to hint that it was easier to close than a Purdey...no "hard" spot
cheers
franc My copy of his book is out on somewhat permanent loan, but, I seem to recall he ordered a 16 because he was getting older and wanted a lighter gun to carry him through his years as they advanced. You may be right about the maker, but, I think it was Aiken, Grant and Lang by then, anyway. He may very well have ordered more than one gun in his life. Does anyone here have a copy of the book that they could look it up in?
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From the Don Masters book "Atkin Grant& Lang", the gun in question was a lightweight 12 bore sidelock ejector #3510 w/27" bbls. & a weight of 6lb. 2.5 oz. & built on the Atkin spring opener action, delivered September 1948.
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This "lighter gun for the geriatric shooter" business is not much of a legitimate thought process, since normal UK game guns are about 6 1/2 pounds. Sure, I would like to complement a 12 bore Boss game gun with a 16, but certainly not for weight savings to protect my aging bones and joints. I just want a new gun.
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