Well, better looking than a Knick anyway. Been down some byways and ridden some hobby horses on this one. Getting back to what actually inspired me to ask, I didn't really think a trap gun would suffer from the same malady as an anemic smallbore albeit made in the same town by the same folks. What I thought was: Look at this sharp root in the angle between standing breech and flats; what's that about? Yep there was a balloon over my head encapsulating those very words. Nobody knows I guess like nobody knows why the NID needs cocking indies in 1925. Zany bunch those upstate "Greeks". }:-[

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