ulua, your "Ideal No. 4" looks suspiciously like my "Symonds Keeper Gun". Mine is badged on the sides as E.Reece & Son, ChristChurch, and has the same proofmarks as your gun. Mine came from New Zealand, of course, but is a Birmingham product made for export to the colonies, in my case the Hardware house in Christchurch...Geo




Last edited by Geo. Newbern; 12/27/15 01:12 PM. Reason: added pics