Re DT OU's, Rich Cole will convert a Beretta for you--and I've seen posts from quite a few people who've had it done. But if you look around, you can certainly find Berettas (and other European OU's--Merkels almost certainly the most common) that came from the factory with DT's. When New England Arms was importing the FAIR (I. Rizzini) guns, DT's were offered as an option. A couple years back, I bought one that had all the options classic sxs lovers often prefer: Not only DT's, but also straight stock and solid rib. On a 28ga, no less. Everything but "proper" barrel orientation. I had a relatively brief flirtation with that gun, but found that an almost sxs still isn't a sxs.