Anybody have a sense of where the Hatfields and the Kimber Valiers fit into the Turkish pantheon? I believe the Hatfield guns did have boxlocks early on, but all the Valiers I've ever seen were sidelocks. Both appear to have a much higher degree of finish (and even real case-hardening), but is the beauty only skin deep?

Last edited by Lloyd3; 02/14/16 07:46 PM.