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Originally Posted By: L. Brown
It'd be half the length, if that, if all the posts were on topic.

....it can be difficult. But the best way to deal with trolls is to ignore them....

....That's the best they can do, which is pretty pathetic.

I think it would've been much less than half the length. Not only do things stray off topic, but they can get quite repetitive. How would you recommend commenting in an acceptable way if there're differing opinions? I guess I should add, without being labeled.

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I correspond and relate every day with people who think differently from me, craig. Respectfully. Nothing wrong with different opinions. I correspond privately and on the board with members in the same way as I do with anyone else. I don't have to know their politics, colour or religion to have a conversation of what I believe or speculate or act to change things. Labelling is unintelligent.

PS: Members would know from years here that I'm a gregarious guy. I talk to people on street corners while waiting for the light to change. I go through life cheerfully as a barefoot boy with cheeks of tan, as I started in a fishing village, because it works for me. I avoid growly, unhappy guys generally because they always have axes to grind. Life should be wonderment, miracles and magic, trying to live to high standard of human values.

I believe members here are the same way, get a big kick out of RWTF, for instance, and would love to look at his books. I don't know his politics, colour or religion---and it doesn't matter. It's easy to separate men from the mean.

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
....Labelling is unintelligent.

....I'm a gregarious guy. I talk to people on street corners while waiting for the light to change. I go through life cheerfully as a barefoot boy with cheeks of tan, as I started in a fishing village, because it works for me. I avoid growly, unhappy guys generally because they always have axes to grind....

Not only is it unintelligent, apparently it's pathetic. But, I respect if others feel the same way.

Say someone's strolling down mainstreet doublegunshop, never even stopped at the corner thread, just looking, minding their own business. Is it okay to have a differing opinion with the growly axe grinder when called on by name? Though opinions differ, I appreciate your approach and contribution.

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Sure, it's okay to engage respectfully with growly or benign if asked by name, as long as you're not being given the finger at the same time.

Humans are complicated to the point they can't be labelled, their character and values classified accurately in a file. I'm against capital punishment, for abortion with conditions, a pacifist who doesn't believe in peace at any price.

I don't believe compromise is betrayal. I compromise with family, friends and publics every day, and believe I'm a better person in a better place for it. I don't know anyone who gets their own way---all the time.

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Well now. I see I can still log-in, so I must not have been banished. I can only hope the reason is that Dave Weber is getting a bit fed up with crybabies and hypocrites too.

Since I last posted, we have Larry Brown commenting that this thread would have only been half of its' length had all of the posts been on topic.

However, that post by Larry was equally off topic, and so were all three posts made by his older brother King Brown. Actually, none of the posts since I was here yesterday was on topic. Yet strangely, Larry has no problem with that! It makes you think... if you actually have the ability to think instead of jumping to hypocritical and incorrect conclusions based upon personal differences. Right Buzz?

King Brown's comments were typical of what I've come to expect from him. These two in particular:

Originally Posted By: King Brown
Pathetic is the correct word. They can't help it. Ignore the mean and mischievous. Don't feed their ignorance.


Originally Posted By: King Brown
Labelling is unintelligent.


Um, I think King has himself once again engaged in labelling. Or labeling.

"Pathetic". "Mean". "Mischievous". "Ignorance". "Unintelligent". If that is not labeling, just what the hell is it? But King has labeled me similarly, and worse, countless times, yet he would never consider himself unintelligent or hypocritical or intellectually dishonest.

I happily admit that I myself have labeled King as Anti-Gun, Anti-2nd Amendment, Anti-NRA, etc., and I have provided dozens of quotes of his own words to back up my opinions of him. I understand why King doesn't like me, and I wouldn't have it any other way. I have reminded King many times that "Dishonesty is not Civility." His intellectual dishonesty is also disrespectful to everyone here. And his younger brother Larry will never admonish King for being off-topic. What conclusions can we draw from this??? Hmmmm.

One little thing that has dragged this thread out, and into off topic-land is this false accusation made about me by Larry Brown:

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I've never held up my observations--nor my opinions, for that matter--as good science. The difference between us is that you do.

You remind me of a dog that's in serious need of a bark collar.


Right after he made this false comment on 2/28/16, I said, "Please show us where I ever held up either my observations, or my opinions for that matter-- as good science." I promised Larry I would continue to ask him to either show us proof, or that he should retract it, admit he lied about me, and apologize.

Larry would rather drag this into eternity and cry like a baby to Dave Weber to grant him cover than to ever admit he was wrong. I knew that's what would happen, and I was willing to risk getting banned from this BBS to make my point.



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From the header: "The rules are really simple: Stay on the subject matter . . . "

Some people have trouble reading very short and to the point rules, I guess.

Anyone who wants to start a topic on another subject, in which they can express opinions related to that subject, is certainly free to do so. And solicit comments on that subject from anyone who chooses to participate.

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Are you saying that about me Larry, or are you saying it about you and your older brother King? Why do you expect me to abide by the same rules that you and King regularly break?

The rules also say "you will not use this BB to post any material which is knowingly false" You and King are both guilty of that.

Don't lecture me about the rules when you yourself violate them Larry. You have needlessly dragged this out by your refusal to retract and apologize for posting false information about me.

Next time you cry to Dave, why don't you throw a tantrum and threaten to leave. Perhaps you could try one of those histrionic farewell threads like Last Dollar did complaining about civility shortly after he called JamesM (formerly Italiansxs) a WOP. Maybe that will make enough noise to make him forget that you create your own problems, and then expect him to bail you out. Grow up man. I did briefly consider notifying Dave that Ed Good has recently been engaging in Trolling in the Second Amendment Informational Thread, but I couldn't lower myself to becoming a squealing little rat.

Speaking of rats, I think #4 lead shot would be overkill for them.


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Somehow I just no longer care what the effectiveness of #4 shot might be...Geo

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Geo -- Maybe this is why 5s have a cult following smile. Have a better day all.

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Originally Posted By: Geo. Newbern
Somehow I just no longer care what the effectiveness of #4 shot might be...Geo


eYe love #4's....they're my favorite shot size. cool

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