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Sidelock
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I opened my Ithaca Lewis 10 gauge 2 7/8" today and the fore end fell off in my hand. The fore end lug is broken. I've emailed Steve Bertram to see if he can repair it but it sure was a sinking feeling when it happened.
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Sidelock
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The solder joint failed after 100 or so years. I have had it happen Certainly a routine repair for a good smith. He nay have to strip the rib clean and re-solder the lug re=lay the rib and possibly re-blue the barrels. Gunter just did a 5E NID skeet gun for me. It happens-my buddies LC had to have the same treatment.
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Sidelock
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Had the same thing happen to an early Nitro Special. Smith had it repaired and back to me within a few weeks. Cost was very reasonable. Just make sure smith knows double guns.
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NOT a TIG welding operation- silver soldering, after cleaning out all the crud and resin debris-Have you "rung" the barrels to check for loose solder joining??
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
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Forend lugs and ribs are NOT silver soldered. They are soft soldered.
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Wassup with the screw in the weep hole? Looks like some welding and filing will also be on the work order. Looks like the back side will show a crack across that hole.
Out there doing it best I can.
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Sidelock
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I've always wondered why other manufacturers didn't do their forearm loops like J. Stevens Arms & Tool Co. Looks to me like these would not come loose!!
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L.C. Smiths also had a 7-32 screw that held them in place and were also soft soldered on. That is why on some L.C.'s the loop moves slightly when the solder fails.
Last edited by JDW; 05/22/16 08:50 PM.
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Common on many, many guns. Looks to be a very straight forward repair if only the lug and short rib are loose. With a bit of heat during the bend the short rib will likely be fine. I can put a small bead on the rear of the rib and refit but would hope to avoid that if possible. The key to getting a good solder joint is getting everything clean so the solder wants to bond rather than fight you. I bead blast the under side of ribs before tinning with rosin flux. Cant get it too hot or the flux burns so I use just an iron on the ribs and both a torch and and iron on the barrels. Not a hard job but requires a bit of diligence. Proper placement of the lug can be tricky but it is very important as that is what usually keeps the fore end tight to the action.
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Thanks Steve. The Ithaca is on the way.
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