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Larry, you are changing the subject. Who was talking about polite? But back to the subject at hand....

Deporting 11 million people may not be practical but politicians of all stripes say all kinds of bullshit to get elected. What we get a glimmer here from Trump is that he plans to address a serious problem in a serious way, UNLIKE EVERY PREVIOUS FEDERAL POLITICIAN. The exact details are....appropriately....still to come. In the meantime he has our attention on the subject. This is what EVERY elected politician tries to do. Why judge Trump differently?

On Islamic immigration, you conveniently obscure the salient points of Trumps position, like the MSM and Washington insiders. He is talking about stopping it, UNTIL BETTER VETTING AND CONTROLS ARE IN PLACE! What do you see as a problem with that?

As Ed Good so eloquently put it, Trump is an entrepreneur, not all ventures succeed and Trump is playing by the rules of the game as a businessman. What he is talking about as a politician is changing the ground rules. See the difference?

Mark my words....the way Mexico will pay for it is through tariffs and duties on their goods once Trump "re-negotiates" NAFTA.

SKB is correct. Both Parties had a hand in negotiating the crazy trade deals that led to the predictions of Ross Perot coming true.

But Bill Clinton did sign NAFTA. Lot's of people worked on building the atomic bomb, but it was Harry Truman who made the decision to drop a couple on Japan. Clinton's signing of NAFTA was like dropping an atomic bomb on the middle class workers of the U.S. NAFTA was the second most important thing on his mind after he got elected. Don't Ask-- Don't Tell, Gays in the military was first. But by doing that very early in his first term, dumb Democrats soon forgot, and happily re-elected him. Even the Unions who got slaughtered still blindly supported him. The same dummies in the Unions turned on Bush 43 after he stopped the dumping of foreign steel... after Clinton merely investigated the problem for years without action.

Larry Clown continues to spout ridiculous nonsense. Numbers vary, but the Obama administration continues to lay claim to deportation of more illegals than any other president. Liberals continue to whine about the human tragedy of splitting up families and creating a Police State, but their idol Obama claims to have deported 2.5 million illegals. If the 11 million number was accurate, and it certainly is not, that mass deportation would account for nearly a quarter of the problem. But without adequate border security, they return as quickly as they are deported, as did the murderer of Kate Steinle. James (canvasback) understands how Trump will get Mexico to pay for the wall. Larry, the brilliant ex-CIA Intelligence Analyst is still trying to figure out how not to be dumber than dirt. It's still not working...



By building the wall, which was already approved by Congress, and supposed to be done already, and letting the Border Patrol and INS do the jobs that we are paying them to do, we could quickly get a handle on things. By toughening penalties for employers who hire illegals, we could get many of them to leave on their own when they can't find work. Defunding sanctuary cities and deducting welfare and medical treatment costs from foreign aid to the countries that are the source of illegal immigration will further reduce the number of illegals. Mexico is a huge recipient of foreign aid. There will be no need for Secret Police or any of the idiotic scenarios that are being voiced by hysterical Liberals. Our immigration system is broken simply because politicians decided that they don't need to enforce existing laws. Passing new laws to "fix" the system won't change a thing if we do not enforce our laws. And Larry will still be dense.

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"Liberals continue to whine about the human tragedy of splitting up families and creating a Police State, but their idol Obama claims to have deported 2.5 million illegals. If the 11 million number was accurate, and it certainly is not, that mass deportation would account for nearly a quarter of the problem. But without adequate border security, they return as quickly as they are deported"

Yeah he deported millions alright. Using Obama's logic when I'm fishing in a catch and release stream and I release the same fish over and over I can still count them as different fish.
Jim

We don't have to live in "jail" solution being not hiring illegal aliens. There are two additional ways of addressing this. One is to bring down USA to Mexican economic standards the other is to raise Mexico to USA economic standards.

Are you serious? Exerting normal border controls constitutes living in "jail"? Deporting illegals means the rest of us live in "jail"?

And it's America's responsibility to bring Mexico up to American standards of living???

How about Mexico ditch the rampant corruption that exists at all levels of society? How about they take some responsibility for the millions of their citizens pouring across the border in the US?

All I'm saying is the best way is simply to stop giving illegal aliens jobs and to remove any economic incentives to come here illegally.

better yet, move the u.s. southern border to the north shore of the panama canal...viva libre!

Unbelievable....

Rather interesting discussions related to deportation. I can tell you in the Suburbs of D.C. I'm not sure a blade of grass would be cut at majority of businesses during the summer if illegals weren't around. I can drive by at almost any 7-11 in the morning and they are lined up at 7 am waiting for someone to pick them up to do something. They always get paid in cash and the majority don't even know what a tax return is. Most folks don't care because many of the jobs they are doing only require unskilled labor. Most of them work like dogs and don't complain because complaining would likely result in someone calling them in for deportation.

In many ways the underbelly of the U.S. acts like a third world country and I've been to a lot of third world countries over the years.