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Gerald- I have a 12 gauge Ideal LONGRANGE- DT, AE- 32" F&F-- 3"chambering-. Made in the post 1930 era, as the forearm escutcheon is rectangular, not "banjo shaped"--I am guessing that when the 3" Magnum Model 12 "Heavy Duck" gun came out in the mid-1930's, many potential buyers of a Smith LONGRANGE went to the M12 instead- lesser price and one more shell available-but that is a guess. Mine weighs 8 lbs. 3 ounces empty-a real "cannon" with non-toxic shot on geese- but I only use 2.75" shells in it- ditto on my 3" Model 12- lower cost, less recoil, and I wait until I can "see their shoe-laces" before I shoot-
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Gerald- I have a 12 gauge Ideal LONGRANGE- DT, AE- 32" F&F-- 3"chambering-. Made in the post 1930 era, as the forearm escutcheon is rectangular, not "banjo shaped"--I am guessing that when the 3" Magnum Model 12 "Heavy Duck" gun came out in the mid-1930's, many potential buyers of a Smith LONGRANGE went to the M12 instead- lesser price and one more shell available-but that is a guess. Mine weighs 8 lbs. 3 ounces empty-a real "cannon" with non-toxic shot on geese- but I only use 2.75" shells in it- ditto on my 3" Model 12- lower cost, less recoil, and I wait until I can "see their shoe-laces" before I shoot- The 3" Model 12 was a wonderful fowling piece in Pb shot days. When it comes to purpose built pumps it hasn't been bested until Browning released 3.5" 12ga BPS with overbore barrels and Invector Plus choke system and the 10ga 3.5" version. These have superseded Model 12 Heavy Duck as best Wildfowling pump guns.
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The stamping barely rates as chicken scratching.
Does that not say, or Y eLl something ?
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There are many high condition Ithaca Mag Tens for sale on the internet. Select one, write a check. Ask for advice if you need it.
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I agree. I have 2 Model 12 heavy duck Mag M12's- a 1939 era with 30" Full solid rib barrel and factory pad, and a 1948 32" Full plain barrel with Pachmyer pad-- Both have had some of the lead weight in the buttstock cavity removed. Might I add one more pumpgun to your fine list? I also have a Mossberg 835 Ulti-Mag 12-- choke tubes, will handle 3.5" shells if you like those Roman Candles. One thing to consider if you have a pumpgun that will handle 3.5 Mag shells- and if it comes with a factory installed plug to comply with the 1935 Federal Law on that- the length of plug that will restrict your magazine capacity to 2 rounds max- will all 3 rounds of 2.75" steel shotshells for waterfowling- worth checking out before next Fall's season. I only shoot 2.75" steel or non-toxic in all my 3" chambered 12 ghauge waterfowl guns. But I love and shoot the Model 12's best-- "money guns", not that I shoot ducks or geese for dollars-
Last edited by Run With The Fox; 06/03/16 07:34 PM.
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