Originally Posted By: Run With The Fox
Gerald- I have a 12 gauge Ideal LONGRANGE- DT, AE- 32" F&F-- 3"chambering-. Made in the post 1930 era, as the forearm escutcheon is rectangular, not "banjo shaped"--I am guessing that when the 3" Magnum Model 12 "Heavy Duck" gun came out in the mid-1930's, many potential buyers of a Smith LONGRANGE went to the M12 instead- lesser price and one more shell available-but that is a guess. Mine weighs 8 lbs. 3 ounces empty-a real "cannon" with non-toxic shot on geese- but I only use 2.75" shells in it- ditto on my 3" Model 12- lower cost, less recoil, and I wait until I can "see their shoe-laces" before I shoot-


The 3" Model 12 was a wonderful fowling piece in Pb shot days. When it comes to purpose built pumps it hasn't been bested until Browning released 3.5" 12ga BPS with overbore barrels and Invector Plus choke system and the 10ga 3.5" version. These have superseded Model 12 Heavy Duck as best Wildfowling pump guns.