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GaryW #446642 06/11/16 02:24 PM
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I'm impressed at how many knowledgable gun "nuts" take the time to share so
much information with those of us who know almost nothing!
I've determined to buy the Sauer double in question. Raimey has confirmed it's
date thru his Russian Table (1897) and that it's a prussian. I bought it (in spite
of the gauge (16) and 2.5" chambers) because of it's exquisite relief engraving -
all surfaces, including full side plates - of animals and birds. It's a "doll's-head" receiver (not the most desirable, I gather), but in remarkably good shape for
it's age.
I'd love to share pictures of the gun on this website, but I haven't a clue how to do this. Maybe someone out there can lead me thru it.
BoBroock

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I cannot see anything wrong with caliber 16!In Germany and other European countries it always was quite common.I'm sure you can get the 67,5mm shells also in the USA. Enjoy your Gun!

Wolfgang

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I have reservations that anyone but Sauer or their sub performed the tap, tap, tap on the locks. DRGM 17913 around clockhand indicators. I seem to recall that protection was filed for in the early 1890s?






Disk set strikers? Also Z mechanic was more than likely the System fella/action guy.


Selbstspanner - System J.P Sauer & Sohn


Papp. 16-65, 4,75 S.P.(Dram Eq. Powder), 28,5 grammes lead shot


Nicht Für Kugel w/ Latin I(surmounted by a dot)


Multiple Sauer Wildmann & Club process or quality mark stamps.

Images from another thread.

Cheers,

Raimey
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Gunwolf #446705 06/12/16 12:03 AM
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Nothing WRONG with 16 ga., Wolfgang; I simply find 20 ga. much more versatile
in the US: lighter weight, and with 3"" chambers, plenty bird coverage for all but
large Ducks. In the US, 16 ga. is passé, I'm afraid, tho' it USED to be popular here
50 years or more ago.

Where would I look for a decent, european, used sxs hard gun case?
Bo

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Wolfgang;
Where might i look for a decent, used Euro take-down hard gun case?
Any web-sited Sellers of something like this?

BoBroock

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Wolfgang;
Where might i look for a decent, used Euro take-down hard gun case?
Any web-sited Sellers of something like this?

BoBroock

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Bo, I'm not quite sure, but I think, hard gun cases were not common in Germany.
More in use were gun sleeves and the so called "Schinkenkoffer" or "leg of mouton" from hard leather, also for take down guns. This one on E-Gn is typically:

Schinkenkoffer E-Gun

or this one, two parts:

Schinkenkoffer two parts

This one of softer but thick leather is my own:

Soft take down slip

The hard gun case is more british, I think, but perhaps I'm wrong.

Cheers,
Wolfgang

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