Redoak: Yes the crome camera is a 111F Model Made in 1952. I keep a wide angle lens on this camera, the 3F did shoot the first two photos in my post.. The Black camera is a pre war 1938 model 2A Leica. I keep a post war F2 Summicron lens on this camera. This is the camera that shot the serial # photo. I sent them both to a man in New York 20 years ago for service, and they just keep on working. No problem to get film today, however Development is going the way of the buffalo. Nice lady in the local photo club develops and prints the film for me. She likes to smoke ducks and we sorta work on the barter system. That is what keeps me and the old leica's in operation. New modern photo stuff is much better but not as much fun.. I guess Old leica's are a lot like old double guns.. thanks for your comment. David