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Craig, I don't think governments can change what's happening, whether liberal or Democrat. I think it's a grass roots cultural change that's needed, black and white alike.
Again, this seems to be a U.S phenomenon. The million dollar question is, where do you go from here? Trump...no...Hillary...I don't think so...you, others, and me....probably.
Life is too short to have a 'hate on' for so many things or people. Isn't it?
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Just curious, but is it the consensus here that BLM organized the attack? And of course we have had no vote but I bet this is the majority opinion here: But the Democrats and liberals and MSNBC and CNN and The New York Times ignore the statistics of Black criminality when reporting on the occurrences of Police shooting Blacks. But the idiots like the Dallas mass murderer get angry listening to that well crafted narrative presented by Mr. Obama and echoed by the race hustlers and he then goes after innocent policemen.
Or perhaps, when one is a minority and regularly sees civilian and law enforcement videos depicting the questionable shooting of minorities by law enforcement with little to no consequences or changes in policies resulting in protecting the officers, they succumb to hopelessness and fear. Which makes for a dangerous person.
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Why was there a protest in the first place? The liberal Democratic party and their propaganda organs have fostered a perception that since Blacks are disproportionately shot by policeman it is because of racism. But according to the FBI Uniform Crime Statistics the rate that Black murderers occur in the Black population is six times the rate that White murderers occur in the White population. So it is fair to assume that Blacks have a much higher rate of criminality in their population. As a result of higher criminality rate they have a disproportionate and much higher rate (to the Black population) of interaction with the Police. Police are human. Police make mistakes and make errors in judgements. Blacks suffer disproportionately from those mistakes because of their higher criminality rate. Many of the Blacks that are the victims of bad policing are/were honest and innocent citizens.
But the Democrats and liberals and MSNBC and CNN and The New York Times ignore the statistics of Black criminality when reporting on the occurrences of Police shooting Blacks. But the idiots like the Dallas mass murderer get angry listening to that well crafted narrative presented by Mr. Obama and echoed by the race hustlers and he then goes after innocent policemen.
(I believe the policeman in Minnesota made a mistake when he shot the Black citizen motorist with the CCL. I think the police in Louisiana made a mistake when the shot the Black citizen selling CDs. I think that Black Louisiana citizen made a mistake when he resisted arrest). Do have the same statistics by socioeconomic status as opposed to race?
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Do have the same statistics by socioeconomic status as opposed to race?
I fully concede that Blacks have a high criminality rate, compared to Whites, because they also have a high poverty rate. But the FBI does not have homicide breakdowns by the wealth of the perpetrator or the victim that I know of. But Blacks do get shot by policemen at disproportionately high rates because they have a very high criminality rate, compared to Whites, so they have a disproportionately high rate of interactions with policemen.
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https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/cr...fender_2014.xlsAs long as we are keeping score by the race of the killer and the race of the victim notice in the table I linked to that Blacks kill twice as many Whites as Whites kill Blacks.
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Craig, I don't think governments can change what's happening.... Debateable dal. What if the pres says hey, this week I'm going to take a twenty minute walk in downtown chicago, and I'm stopping for deep dish pizza. Next week maybe the same in inner city st louis for bbq, and the following week in compton for a mexican food sampler lunch. Would you want to wager his entourage would have things 'cleaned up' a good bit before he shows up. Maybe, he could give the local law folks the little wink so that they can keep the ball rolling, after he leaves. Maybe, he could get up on his stump, identify enemies domestic and foreign, and signal to citizens that there won't be a negative stigma attached to ostracizing bad folks. You know, that same patriotic inspiration like for the lbgt-mouse priority. What if he used his pen and phone to make it extremely distasteful for poor and minority kids to demand special considerations to skate through high school. How about the wanna be leader, what do you think the value of a 'free' college degree would be. A real feather in the ole cap, eh. The road to nowhere, do I listen to you and take it? Ah, it could never happen. I have though heard tales of stopping all traffic, hundreds of frisks and neighborhood lockdowns for snow cones and high end dinners out on lavish Hawaiian vacations. Anyone up for a little golf? If you could vote in the US, would you change from 'I don't think so' to 'yes I can'?
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Thanks Craig, you get my point. Even the president can't change things after he leaves. We must All help in the fight to change things. Other countries have...why not the U.S ?
Neither candidate would get my vote, if I could. Neither would the next lib government where I live. My principles transend party lines.
Life is too short to have a 'hate on' for so many things or people. Isn't it?
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Do have the same statistics by socioeconomic status as opposed to race?
I fully concede that Blacks have a high criminality rate, compared to Whites, because they also have a high poverty rate.... I don't think so Mike. If this were true, the crime rate would not fluctuate based on the ideology of those in charge of selectively enforcing law. What also is a concern is stereotyping based on income. Wouldn't welfare checks create crime free zones, assuming they're not cashed in strip clubs or pot shops.
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....why not the U.S ?.... Maybe, it's just a matter of priorities. We've been busy little worker bees, fundamentally changing America.
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....Neither candidate would get my vote, if I could. Neither would the next lib government where I live. My principles transend party lines. Not good enough dal, you should vote anyway. Whew, I'm bushed, ran through a halfway decent laundry list. Too bad one side is stuck on fundamental change. One favor please, when you do end up voting lib, challenge yourself to think about it rather than go on transcendental feelings. See if you can come up with a factual list of where some conservative denied any lib the gumption to be the best lib that they can be.
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