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Originally Posted By: dal
And by the way, it sounds like some here could not care about protecting themselves against the government, but are more concerned with just having the right to own a bunch a of guns. Kieth made that perfectly clear, or all some would have is a few hunting rifles, and an AR15 with a bunch of ammo.....just in case.


dla (sic), where or when did I ever say such a thing? Don't put words in my mouth, you illiterate little faggot.


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Originally Posted By: AmarilloMike
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Do have the same statistics by socioeconomic status as opposed to race?


I fully concede that Blacks have a high criminality rate, compared to Whites, because they also have a high poverty rate.

But the FBI does not have homicide breakdowns by the wealth of the perpetrator or the victim that I know of.

But Blacks do get shot by policemen at disproportionately high rates because they have a very high criminality rate, compared to Whites, so they have a disproportionately high rate of interactions with policemen.


Without examining more sources of data that look at more than just race as the demographic variable I'd suggest your conclusions are faulty as they are based off of too little information.


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Only a person blinded by his own liberal stupidly could deny the facts.

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Originally Posted By: nca225
Without examining more sources of data that look at more than just race as the demographic variable I'd suggest your conclusions are faulty as they are based off of too little information.


Do you think the FBI Uniform Crime Statistics are the result of a plot by a vast right wing conspiracy to justify police shootings?

Per capita, murderers occur in the Black population at six times the rate murderers occur in the White population. Are you disputing that?

The Democrats and their media are also making the argument that Blacks are incarcerated at a much higher rate than Whites because of discrimination. Again, Blacks' high criminality rate explains their highly disproportionate incarceration rate.

Most Blacks are not criminals. Most of the victims of Black criminals are Blacks. But, compared to Whites, Blacks have a very high rate of criminality, along with their high rates of police interactions, being shot by policeman, and being incarcerated.



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Here is another table from the FBI's Uniform Crime Statistics:

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43

In the US there are about five times as many Whites as Blacks. So to compare the two categories multiply the number of Black rapists by five and then compare that number to the number White rapists etc...



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The degradation of what is considered the "Black Community" is intentional, and has been going on for decades. The indoctrination of "Black Liberation Theology" is the cause. This is merely a dogma introduced by Soviet "Fellow Travelers" mainly starting in the 1960's. It's subjective morality is based on Marxist-Leninism and is clearly anti-Constitutional. The establishment of the Dept. of Education has greatly furthered this indoctrination. It is a collective religious ideology, based on the subjective morality of Victimhood and Entitlement, rather than one of individual Freedom and Equality in the Constitutional sense.

Once you indoctrinate someone to believe that they are oppressed in a collective sense and are therefore entitled to other's Freedom, it is inevitable the some will eventually consider that they are entitled to taking the very lives of others, as what is now happening.


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Originally Posted By: AmarilloMike


Do you think the FBI Uniform Crime Statistics are the result of a plot by a vast right wing conspiracy to justify police shootings?

Per capita, murderers occur in the Black population at six times the rate murderers occur in the White population. Are you disputing that?

The Democrats and their media are also making the argument that Blacks are incarcerated at a much higher rate than Whites because of discrimination. Again, Blacks' high criminality rate explains their highly disproportionate incarceration rate.

Most Blacks are not criminals. Most of the victims of Black criminals are Blacks. But, compared to Whites, Blacks have a very high rate of criminality, along with their high rates of police interactions, being shot by policeman, and being incarcerated.


No, I don't think there is a conspiracy. I do think that there are more variables that lead to the the crime statistics then just the race of the demographic you are looking at.


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Well, this article just came out in that right-wing fascist rag - The New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/upshot...gs.html?src=twr

A Harvard economics professor (who happens to be Black) got upset about the shootings of Blacks by policemen and did a "data dive". He concluded that Blacks were 18% less likely to be shot by cops than Whites, everything else being equal.

Edit: I have a subscription to the New York Times. I added this link in case the original didn't work for non-subscribers:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/upshot...-shootings.html


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Thanks for the link Mike. That article is a good read and the data should be used to confront the argument that the police shootings are the result of pure racism. But the source of the data seems to come solely from law enforcement reports. It would of been interesting if the research group, in addition to the law enforcement data, looked at the economic status of the suspects in each police report they reviewed and considered that information in making their conclusions.


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You have good tastes in journalism, Mike. One way or another, always good to keep opposition close to your chest.

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