Originally Posted By: AmarilloMike
Those murders of those abortionists were wrong. The murderers should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

I saw no hate speech from Fox News or O'Reilly towards those institutions or individuals. Objecting to the principle of killing babies in the womb is not hate speech.

I am sure that out of the hundreds of thousands of city, county, state and Federal politicians there are some who participated in hate speech directed at the abortionists and their institutions. Don't remember seeing them on Fox News. But I can hardly turn on the news without seeing Jesse, Al, Barry or other Democrats accusing policemen of race based murder of Blacks.

The best number I can come up with for LEOs murdered in the US in a year is about 130. How many abortionists are murdered in a year?

Since you changed the subject I assume you are conceding that the Black Lives Matter contention that policemen are systemicly and wantonly committing race based murder against Blacks is a falsehood.






Mike,

I think that routinely referring to George Tiller as Tiller the Baby Killer is hate speech and it has a specific audience.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...er-baby-killer/

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/02/us/02blame.html?_r=0

And the hate speech was not just leveled at Tiller but across the board concerning all abortion providers.

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/d...connection.html

Just as you are claiming that the race baiting is a dog whistle to get minorities to the polls, this and gay marriage are traditionally the dog whistle that gets out the conservative base’s vote.

Your comparison concerning LEO’s getting “murdered” and abortion providers is disingenuous as well. LEO’s, bless them, actively interject themselves into situations or confrontations where there is a risk to their safety. Abortion providers do not.

Lastly, in response to my conceding an issue, one cannot concede an issue where there is agreement. You may have missed these previous posts of mine:

Originally Posted By: nca225
Originally Posted By: AmarilloMike

Even if the dashcam video shows that the policeman incorrectly shot the CCL motorist, which I think it will, in a country of 330,000,000 people it is going to happen. I don't think the cop executed the motorist, I think he made a grave error or mistake. I may be wrong, the dashcam may show a justified shooting.

There is no doubt that the police make a disproportionate number of fatal errors when dealing with Black citizens. But murderers occur in the Black population at six times the per capita rate of Whites. The vast majority of Blacks are honest citizens. But that criminal rate means Blacks also have six times the per capita rate of interaction with the police than Whites do. And thus are disproportionate victims of unjustified police shootings.


First off, as I said earlier, I don't think this is a race thing. This is a concern over a Police State that you all seem comfortable with.

Now lets look at your position here... you feel that in a country of 330,000,000 people, when law enforcement gets involved, there are bound to be some mistakes, and some innocent people will get killed by the police. I think that since you feel that law enforcement is out there providing a necessary security function, through a very stressful job, these incidents where people are unjustly shot are the result of some grave and tragic mistake.

But when we have our government performing a necessary security function in a country of 330,000,000 and creating a terrorist watch list and wishing to prevent people on that list from getting a gun, for our own safety, the same inevitable and tragic mistakes of wrongly designating a person on that list is just too much to take.

How can you be idle about the prior and outraged by the latter?




Originally Posted By: nca225
Originally Posted By: Geo. Newbern
I certainly cannot condone the police execution of people, innocent or otherwise (black or white) during an arrest. However as we have learned from the Ferguson, MO, Baltimore,MD.New York, and other excess force disputes we've seen in the news lately, it is pointless to assume anything until the full facts come out.

It almost seems that black lives do not in fact matter unless there is money in the form of reparations to families or political hay to be made. If law enforcement is going overboard with lethal force it must be dealt with for sure. However, I think both law enforcement and the Courts are handling these matters both expeditiously and honestly in most all cases...Geo



Can't argue with that Geo. To be clear, I don't think this is purely a race issue. Another poster noted that Caucasians as well are wrongly killed by law enforcement, but they don't protest. Maybe whites should protest police shootings as well.

It would be pretty smart to do, because if the public can be made aware that law enforcement is just as likely to shoot a white guy as a black guy, then nobody's life matters as opposed to just black lives.

Beware the Police State...



The squeaky wheel gets the oil Mike. As I said before, it would well serve all communities to protest police abuse, not just letting BLM control the narrative.

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