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Originally Posted By: AmarilloMike
Blacks' high criminality rate explains their highly disproportionate incarceration rate.

Most Blacks are not criminals.


True on the first one but I'm not so sure about the second one....if you'd have said "yet" I could agree with you.

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Originally Posted By: Ken61
The degradation of what is considered the "Black Community" is intentional, and has been going on for decades. The indoctrination of "Black Liberation Theology" is the cause. This is merely a dogma introduced by Soviet "Fellow Travelers" mainly starting in the 1960's. It's subjective morality is based on Marxist-Leninism and is clearly anti-Constitutional. The establishment of the Dept. of Education has greatly furthered this indoctrination. It is a collective religious ideology, based on the subjective morality of Victimhood and Entitlement, rather than one of individual Freedom and Equality in the Constitutional sense.

Once you indoctrinate someone to believe that they are oppressed in a collective sense and are therefore entitled to other's Freedom, it is inevitable the some will eventually consider that they are entitled to taking the very lives of others, as what is now happening.


That's an interesting point.....the "degradation" as you call it was the easy part considering the historical fact that most blacks don't have a problem degrading themselves.

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I've always suspected Ebonics was Obama's 1st language since he apparently can't decipher(comprehend?) the statement from this shooter that he wanted to kill Whites and especially White police officers!

Obama quote:
"First of all, I think it's very hard to untangle the motivers(sic) of this shooter," said Obama. "I'll leave that to psychologists and people who study these kinds of incidents...I think the danger is that we somehow suggest the act of a troubled individuals speaks to some larger political statement across the country."

And this idiot has been occupying the White House for the past 8 years! Maybe that's why when mobs of Iranians and other radical Islamics chant "Kill all Americans" that's difficult to "decipher" as well.
It also apparent he can't read either as anyone who has seen the signs that the Blacks display at their BLM rallies can testify.

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Originally Posted By: AmarilloMike
ncaa I can claim progress. You have gone from arguing that Black citizens are grossly disproportionately shot by policemen because those Black citizens' race to arguing that Black and White citizens get shot unjustly by policemen too often. Well, once a century is too much. Again you conflate two different things and leave me to disentangle.

You have conceded that Black Citizens have more encounters with Police than white Citizens because the population of Blacks have a much higher rate of criminality than Whites. The NYT article I linked to shows that cops shoot Blacks at an 18% lower rate per encounter than Whites. So you have conceded that. Again, progress.



Sorry Mike, but you can't claim progress asserting I've changed on a position I've never taken. I've been pretty consistent in my concern about the unchecked authority of the Police State. I have pointed out in threads that the victims of the shootings were black, but never indicated that were killed because of it, in fact my concern was whether it was just solely because they were armed at the time of police contact.

And no, I have not conceded that Black Citizens have more encounters with Police than white Citizens because the population of Blacks have a much higher rate of criminality than Whites. I have been urging you to consider poverty as the demographic variable instead of race. At the risk of being crass, poor people have more contact with police because poor people engage in more criminal activity that has a higher likelihood of police contact then rich people.


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Originally Posted By: AmarilloMike

Mr. Tiller was in fact an abortionist. His practice was legal. He should not have been killed. Nor, for the same reasons, should the Denver clinic have been attacked. The perpetrators should be prosecuted. I don't watch O'Reilly and so missed his "Tiller the Baby Killer" remarks. But had he called him "Tiller the Abortionist" it would have been just as accurate and just as inflammatory.


I disagree and would counter that Tiller the Baby Killer is significantly more inflammatory then Tiller the Abortionist. This is obvious on the face of it.


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Originally Posted By: AmarilloMike

The lie, created by BLM and promoted by the Democrats, POTUS, Jesse, and Al, about cops hate-murdering Black citizens, inflamed many Black citizens against policemen and caused a many to attempt to kill many policemen. And the Democratic Party was partisan in its support of BLM.


Herein lies the problem with a black and white outlook on this debate. (Obvious pun there!) Is it a lie or a matter of an incorrect perception of the situation? I'm not surprised that BLM considers the shooting of blacks by cops to be a result of racism.

As I suggested before, when one is a minority and regularly sees civilian and law enforcement videos depicting the questionable shooting of minorities by law enforcement with little to no consequences or changes in policies resulting in protecting the officers, they succumb to hopelessness and fear. Which makes for a dangerous person.

Now combine with this a lifetime of experience being confronted with racism both institutionalized and individualized. I think it is very easy to become angry and impassioned when when this is what you perceive. So correct the perception and show that police abuse everybody, not just blacks. The onus is on the community as a whole to correct the perception of the BLM folks. At the same time, I would hope that the BLM folks would listen.


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This chart just about says it all unless you hampered by comprehending the English language as is apparently the case with Obama:



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That is very helpful Herr Oberst. I had no idea that 200% of the population has been killed, let alone that I was killed by either a white, black or a cop, and apparently twice.

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+1 your penultimate message.

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[quote=nca225]That is very helpful Herr Oberst..../quote]
Herr einstien, your pet feel good cause of the hour is black deaths by homicide. Why don't you just look at those and add those up. Shouldn't you be passing out hill for prez buttons instead of screwing around on your phone?

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