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Definitely crolle - ? 3 Iron



The primary question is this mark, which may be 'SJB'



There was a relationship between Nicolas Albert Bernard and Emile Henry Faur� Le Page, and possibly the sons Albert and Leopold. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

https://www.justcollecting.com/miscellania/antique-faure-le-page-firearms

http://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/23050

http://www.littlegun.info/arme%20francai...thomas%20gb.htm

Mike

and more
http://www.littlegun.info/arme%20francai...lepage%20gb.htm

"FAURE-LEPAGE was a arquebusier and furbisher of very great reputation. It was installed in Paris 1st, with the n� 8 of the Street of Richelieu of 1865 to 1913. This trade still existed in the years 1990. With the origin Mr. Faur� had joined to Henri Lepage, arquebusier specialized in the production of weapons rather close to the work of art, of which splendid boxes of guns of duel and very exceptional shotguns intended for very fortunate customers...

This signature, with it only, is a pledge of quality and moreover more been worth.

The weapons carrying the signature of Lepage or Faur�-Lepage are in France the equivalent of Holland and Holland in Great Britain.

Michel Malherbe " (see reference above)

Always good to remember that there are Belgian-made LePage shotguns as well, at least some of which were marketed in France. Often pretty basic guns.

Larry is of course correct. The gun is percussion, and carries no Perron (post-1811) nor Banc D'Epreuves de Liege (post-1818) mark so I believe is was manufactured in France

There was a S. J. Bernard mechanic from the 1860s. Don't recall if he was solely in Liege or to & fro from there to Paris?

I'd say there's a lovely story centred around Lepage, etc. in Paris & sourcing from Liege. Hopefully Wildcattle has the facts @ his fingertips but I'd say is lies w/ Lepage Arq-er(Arquebuiser) Du Roi � Paris or Lepage Moutier Arq-er Du Roi � Paris.



Louis Moutier, arquebusier de metier, epouse en 1830 la file de Henry Lepage, fils et successor de Jean Lepage. En 1842, il succede a son beau-p�re en reprenant la direcion la celebre arquebuserie du 8, rue de Richelieu � Paris. C'est a partir de cette date qu'il signe ses armes L. Lepage-Moutier, alors que les brevets sont d�pos� par Louis Moutier-Lepage. Jusqu'a 1848, il ajoute a sa signature la mention Arquebusier du Roi et des Princes (1848 voyant la fin de la monarchie en France(King Louis-Philippe)). Certaines sources font etat d'une eventuelle fabrication de ses armes � Li�ge, armes qui etaient ensuite assemblees et signees par Loius Moutier Lepage � Paris. La confusion peut d'ailleurs facilement se faire si l'on sait que le nom de Lepage n'est pas inconnu dans le monde de l'armurerie de la ville des Princes-Eveques ou, a cette �poque, l'on signale, notamment, Lepage Fr�res (Charles et Alphonse Lepage), dont le siege social est � Paris, 12, rue d'Enghien, mais dont les armes sont fabriquees a la Fabrique de Lepage Fr�res � Li�ge. Mais, selon diverses souces, les Lepage Fr�res ne sont pas du tout apparent�s aux Lepage qui nous concernent.
En 1865, Louis Moutier-Lepage s'associe avec Henri Faur� -Lepage, fils de l'officier Faur� et d'Eleonore Lepage, fille de Jean Lepage et donc soeur du beau-pere de Louis Moutier. Cette association dure jusqu'a la mort de ce dernier, en 1868.

A little history here lifted from Littlegun:

http://www.littlegun.info/arme%20francaise/artisans%20k%20l/a%20lepage%20moutier%20gb.htm

Arquebusier Gilles Michel Louis Moutier-Lepage � Paris.
Arquebusier Jean Andr� Prosper Henri Le Page.

"The firm of Lepage-Moutier was founded in 1842 by the gunmaker Louis Moutier who succeeded in that year to the business established by Henri Lepage. The business is recorded at 8 Rue de Richlieu, Paris, 1842-1865. Louis Moutier was in turn joined and succeeded by his nephew Emile Henri Faur� Lepage in 1865 and the new business continued until 1913......

Silver medals at the Paris Expositions of 1844 and 1849, and a 1st Class medal at the exposition of 1855. Further Silver medals at the Great Exhibition of 1851 in London and again in 1862."

Cheers,

Raimey
rse

Ah, below is an article which makes a stab @ the history:

Fond�e sous Louis XV, en 1717, la Maison Faur� Le Page s�est d�s l�origine illustr�e comme arquebusier (aujourd�hui on dit armurier) des rois et des princes. Sept g�n�rations d�une m�me famille se sont succ�d�es pour forger une l�gende parmi les grandes marques fran�aises.
C�est Louis Pigny qui est � l�origine de la marque. Il est officiellement arquebusier du roi Louis XV sur un acte du 23 octobre 1735 et sur un autre acte de 1756. En 1743 il c�de son fonds � Pierre Le Page (ou Lepage), form� en tant que arquebusier et qui a �pous� sa ni�ce. La maison Pigny devient Le Page et jouit d�une belle r�putation. Il devient arquebusier du Mar�chal de Saxe puis arquebusier et fourbisseur de la Maison d�Orl�ans.
Sans h�ritier Pierre Le Page c�de sa maison en 1767 � son neveu Jean Le Page (photo ci-contre) qu�il a form� pendant quatre ans. Jean Le Page poursuit l��uvre familiale et accro�t le prestige de la marque. Au fil des ann�es et des cr�ations la marque apporte de nombreuses innovations techniques dans son domaine et d�pose de nombreux brevets. Des inventions qui font le bonheur aujourd�hui des plus grands mus�es. Toute l�aristocratie et les plus grands notables viennent se fournir chez Le Page. Le Page conserve son adresse au 13, rue de Richelieu � proximit� du Palais-Royal ce qui le place au c�ur des �v�nements de notre histoire. En effet la famille Faur� Le Page s�engage avec cran dans l�Histoire de France en armant les r�volutionnaires de 1789 et de 1830. Balzac, Dumas, Chateaubriand, Pouchkine et d�innombrables auteurs c�l�brent cette Maison dans leurs plus illustres romans. Jean Le Page aura six enfants dont quatre vont poursuivre dans le m�tier d�arquebusier mais c�est Jean Andr� Prosper Henri Le Page, le quatri�me enfant, qui succ�de � son p�re en 1822. Gr�ce � lui la notori�t� de la maison Le Page s�internationalise gr�ce notamment � ses participations aux expositions de Paris de 1823, 1827, 1834 et celle de 1839 o� il obtient une M�daille d�argent.
En 1842, il c�de la direction de la maison � son gendre Gilles Michel Louis Moutier-Le Page. La marque est le symbole de l�artisanat fran�ais. La Maison f�d�re les plus grands talents des m�tiers d�art. Canonniers, fondeurs, soudeurs, serruriers, fourbisseurs, sculpteurs, modeleurs, ciseleurs, graveurs, incrusteurs, doreurs, bourreliers, gainiers, maroquiniers, orf�vres, joailliers ont particip� � la r�alisation des chefs-d��uvre de la Maison.
A ce moment-l� l�entreprise poursuit son expansion sous le nom Le Page-Moutier. Les succ�s sont toujours l� et il fait fortune. Il s�associe � son neveu �mile Henry Le Page en 1865. Ce dernier devient l�unique propri�taire de la maison et 1868. Il d�veloppe la client�le internationale et devient fournisseur brevet� de la Cour imp�riale de Russie. Les prix r�colt�s lors des expositions universelles confirment le rayonnement mondial de la marque. �mile Henry Le Page est fait chevalier de la l�gion d�honneur en 1878 puis officier de la l�gion d�honneur en 1894.
La boutique historique s'installe au 8, rue de Richelieu. En 1913, l�armurier Dumond succ�de � Faur� Le Page mais la maison ancienne garde le nom et devient une soci�t� anonyme en 1925. Par la suite, la maison change plusieurs fois de propri�taire. Tout en conservant son activit� d'armurerie et de vente d'accessoires de chasse, la Maison d�veloppe des produits de maroquinerie.
En 2012, la septi�me adresse parisienne de Faur� Le Page ouvre ses portes au 21 rue Cambon dans le 1er arrondissement de Paris. La collection de maroquinerie, orn�e du motif �cailles, porte la marque de son glorieux pass� et de son �ternelle modernit�. Comme autrefois la marque s�attache � pr�server les savoir-faire : architectes, menuisiers, serruriers, dinandiers, graphistes, designers, stylistes, mod�listes, coloristes, imprimeurs� compl�tent aujourd�hui les talents des artisans maroquiniers. Sa r�putation de maroquinier s�appuie sur son histoire. En effet � la chasse comme � la guerre, les sacs accompagnent toujours les armes et transportent munitions, provisions, gibier, bottes et autres effets personnels. La maroquinerie actuelle de Faur� Le Page est l�h�riti�re des cartouchi�res, sacoches, besaces, gibernes, musettes, carniers, gibeci�res, sacs de battue, seaux � cartouches� Aujourd�hui, la Maison propose toujours ces articles de r�f�rence fabriqu�s dans les ateliers historiques. En compl�ment et pour conqu�rir un autre public la collection s�est enrichie de nouvelles armes de s�duction� Des accessoires de maroquinerie pour femmes tr�s tendance.
Des articles qui reprennent la Toile �cailles h�riti�re de l�embl�matique motif �cailles et des toiles enduites. La Toile �cailles exclusive est �labor�e selon des techniques artisanales. Imprim�e au cadre � � la Lyonnaise � par un proc�d� semblable � celui utilis� pour l�ennoblissement de la soie, la Toile �cailles est ensuite cir�e et grain�e, ce qui lui conf�re, au-del� de son ind�niable souplesse, un touch� satin� et une grande r�sistance. La maison a pour symbole aujourd�hui le chiffre 7. Il a marqu� les grands moments de l�histoire de la marque : 1717 ouverture de la premi�re Maison de Vente, au c�ur de Paris. 7 g�n�rations d�une m�me famille qui ont forg� sa l�gende. 7 souverains fran�ais, depuis Louis XV, ont distingu� l�arquebusier. 7 �tapes sont n�cessaires pour �laborer la Toile �cailles. 7 �cailles s�parent les signatures qui rythment la toile. 7 fois 3 = 21 rue Cambon, septi�me adresse parisienne de Faur� Le Page. 7 fois 2 = 14 septembre 2012, ouverture de la Maison de Vente.
Si aujourd�hui, le feu des fusils s�est apais� celui de l�amour et de la s�duction est toujours bien vif. Faur� Le Page offre ainsi avec ses cr�ations de nouvelles armes de s�duction. Une belle histoire qui entend bien perdurer encore quelques si�cles. - See more at: http://www.fashions-addict.com/L-histoir...h.tUBp8I38.dpuf

Cheers,

Raimey
rse

Translated as best I can do or more accurately best my computer can do.

Founded under Louis XV, in 1717, the House Faur� Le Page was shown from the outset as musketeer (now they say gunsmith) kings and princes. Seven generations of the same family have succeeded in forging a legend among major French brands.
It was Louis Pigny who is behind the brand. It is officially musketeer of King Louis XV on an act of 23 October 1735 and on another act of 1756. In 1743 he sold his fund to Pierre Le Page (or Lepage), trained as a gunsmith and who married his niece. The house becomes Pigny Le Page and enjoys a fine reputation. It becomes arquebusier Marshal Saxe and then arquebusier furbisher of the House of Orleans.
Without heir Pierre Le Page gives his house in 1767 to his nephew Jean Le Page (pictured cons) that he trained for four years. Jean Le Page family continues the work and increases the prestige of the brand. Over the years the brand creations and brings many technical innovations in its field and deposited numerous patents. Inventions that are the delight of the greatest museums. The aristocracy and the greatest notables come to provide for Le Page. The page retains its address at 13, rue de Richelieu near the Palais-Royal which places it at the heart of events in our history. Indeed the family Faur� Le Page engages notch in the history of France by arming the revolutionaries of 1789 and 1830. Balzac, Dumas, Chateaubriand, Pushkin and countless authors celebrate this House in their most famous novels. Jean Le Page had six children, four of which will continue in the trade of gunsmith but Jean Andr� Prosper Henri Le Page, the fourth child, who succeeded his father in 1822. Thanks to him the reputation of the home page s 'internationalized thanks to its participation in exhibitions in Paris in 1823, 1827, 1834 and one from 1839 where he won a silver medal.
In 1842, he sold the direction of the house to his son Gilles Michel Moutier-Louis Le Page. The brand is the symbol of French craftsmanship. House unites the most talented crafts. Gunners, founders, welders, locksmiths, burnishers, sculptors, modelers, carvers, engravers, keyers, spin doctors, saddlers, gainiers, leather, silversmiths, jewelers participated in the realization of the masterpieces of the House.
At that time the company continues to expand as Le Page-Moutier. The successes are still there and he made a fortune. He joins his nephew Emile Henry Le Page in 1865. The latter became the sole owner of the house and 1868. It develops international clientele and becomes official supplier to the Imperial Court of Russia. The prices collected during the world exhibitions confirm the global reach of the brand. Emile Henry Le Page is a Knight of the Legion of Honour in 1878 and an Officer of the Legion of Honour in 1894.
The historic shop settles at 8, rue de Richelieu. In 1913, the gunsmith Dumond succeeded Faur� Le Page, but the old house keeps the name and became a limited company in 1925. Thereafter, the house changes hands several times. While retaining its activity armory and sale of hunting accessories, the house develops leather goods.
In 2012, the seventh Parisian address of Faur� Le Page opens its doors at 21 rue Cambon in the 1st arrondissement of Paris. The leather goods collection, decorated with the scales pattern bears the mark of its glorious past and its eternal modernity. As once the brand is committed to preserving expertise: architects, carpenters, locksmiths, coppersmiths, graphic artists, designers, stylists, designers, colorists, printers ... today complement the talents of leather craftsmen. Its leather goods reputation is based on its history. Indeed hunting and war, bags always accompany their arms and carry ammunition, provisions, game, boots and other belongings. The current leather Faur� Le Page is the heiress of pouches, bags, wallets, pouches, satchels, game bags, game bags, hunting bags, cartridges, pails ... Today, the house still offers these reference articles produced in the workshops historical. In addition and to conquer another public collection has been enriched with new weapons of seduction ... From leather accessories for trendy women.
Articles, which include the Canvas Scales Scales heir to the iconic pattern and coated fabrics. The Web exclusive Scales is developed using traditional techniques. Printed on the frame "Lyonnaise" by a process similar to that used for the finishing of silk, canvas and waxed Scales is then granulated, giving him beyond his undeniable flexibility, a touchdown and a satin resistance. The house is symbolized today the number 7. It marked the great moments of the history of the brand 1717 opening of the first Auction House in the heart of Paris. 7 generations of a family who forged his legend. 7 French sovereigns since Louis XV, have distinguished the gunsmith. 7 steps are needed to develop the Web Scales. 7 Scales separate signatures that punctuate the canvas. 7 times 3 = 21 rue Cambon, Paris seventh address of Faur� Le Page. 7 times 2 = 14 September 2012 opening of the Auction House.
If today, fire guns died down one of love and seduction is always lively. Faur� Le Page and offers his creations with new weapons of seduction. A beautiful story that intends to continue even centuries.

Louis Moutier, arquebusier of profession, wife in 1830 the line of Henry Lepage, son and successor of Jean Lepage. In 1842 he succeeds to his father by taking the direcion the famous arquebuserie 8, rue de Richelieu in Paris. It is from this date that he signs his arms L. Lepage-Moutier, while patents are filed by Louis Moutier-Lepage. Until 1848 he added to his signature the Arquebusier mention of King and Princes (1848 saw the end of the monarchy in France (King Louis-Philippe)). Some sources state of a possible manufacture of its weapons � Liege, weapons that were then assemblies and signed by Loius Lepage Moutier in Paris. Confusion can also easily be done if you know the name of Lepage is not unknown in the world of the armory of the city of the Prince-Bishops or, at this time, it is reported, including Lepage Brothers (Charles and Alphonse Lepage), whose registered office is in Paris, 12, rue d'Enghien, but whose weapons are manufactured at the factory Lepage Brothers � Li�ge. But, according to various souces, the Lepage Brothers are not at all related to Lepage that concern us.
In 1865, Louis Lepage Moutier-partners with Henri Faure -Lepage, son of Faur� officer and Eleonore Lepage, daughter of Jean Lepage and thus sister of the father-Louis Moutier. This association lasted until the latter's death in 1868.

Thank you gentlemen. 'SJB' has gotta be in there somewhere.

Was Louis Pigny the builder of those highly adorned and gold inlayed flintlock or miquelet fowlers you see in museums and such?