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Some of you may have noticed three Ebay auctions for parts from a 16ga. NID Field Grade. I talked to the seller and the truth of it is he parted it out because he couldn't get $750 for the entire gun in the gun auctions.
The gun looked like it has some honest wear, the seller seemed to know his stuff and told me that other for a few cosmetic issues chipped buttplat, worn varnish and missing some blue on one side) it was a nice NID.
I got the barrels, I'm going to see I can fit them to my 1937 gun. The barrels I have don't ring too well and this seems cheaper than having the original set stripped, etc. Someone else got the stock set and all the internals. The seller kept the receiver but will probably offer it to the other buyer.
So he only got about $640 for the 3 auctions, not including the receiver. Too bad, would have been a nice shooter.
My problem lies in reconciling my gross habits with my net income. - Errol Flynn
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I guess I come from a different era where principles,honesty and your word were valued much more than today. Pulling an all original item apart because you can get more for it as parts kind of rides roughshod over my own personal values but I guess that's the way it is today. Jim
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I understand your feelings Jim but it's an economic question for this guy, this is his livelihood. He's an antique dealer that sells a lot of guns and has to get the most he can for his merchandise. I can be disappointed but I can't question his personal values over it. On the contrary, his descriptions seemed forthright, he was very candid when we spoke.
OTOH I may change my view when I get the barrels.
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Just because the guy is a dealer it doesn't excuse him from having morals.
Maybe someday his wife will sell his kidneys to raise a few dollars...economics and all....
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So he still got $110 less than he intended, and destroyed a classic shotgun, to boot. All because he priced it above that particular market and refused to sell it through another venue or at another time. Was the gun worth the $750 he wanted for it? I suspect that with a bit more patience and creativity he could have made that and more. A damn shame. I wouldn't call what you describe as a parts gun no matter what, and a dealer should have more respect than that for his bread and butter. My two cents. TT
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Recoil Rob, I got the rest of the parts. If there is any way you can't use these barrels or want to make a quick profit., please sell them to me. OR I can sell you the rest of the parts at my cost. I was hoping to put the gun back together- one of us should. Please e-mail me at wsnyder@pinehurst.net should you wish to discuss this further.
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While I like older Amercan shotguns, I don't believe there is anything "immoral" about parting-out an old shotgun, or old car.
In my "older" neighborhood, builders are buying homes 50 to 80 years old, leveling them, and constructing larger brand new homes with modern plumbing, larger bathrooms and kitchens, better insulation, etc. Other than the fact it probably raises my property tax valuation, I see nothing wrong with this approach.
Perhaps immoral is the wrong word.
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Now you're questioning the morals of a man you've never met over what he does with his shotgun?
Let's take a step back here guys, take a breath, reality check. This is supposed to be fun.
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We have seen this happen before. Not long ago a Lefever G grade suffered the same fate on Ebay. I can see both sides on this issue. Not sin to want to sell a gun or parts. Not a sin to want them to stay as they were made. We own these guns because we love them others sell them to us to make money. We have fun with what had been the sellers gun and they have fun with what was our money.
But doesn't anyone see this like a auto junk yard. If a gun junk yard had all the parts that you wanted how much easier would it be to keep our own gun working for many more years. Numerich Arms and a few others use to be fairly good places to find old gun parts. My luck is that every time I try them they do not have the part I need.
The gun must have been fairly well worn if he could not get 750 for a 16 gauge.
jerry6stl
Before I bought my current house I looked at dozens of houses in the school district my wife wanted to live in. They went from sub 100K to over one million. Most of the higher priced homes were new houses built after a smaller, older house had been torn down. They had to put expensive home back to justify the project and to make any money. In fact I bought one house that had extensive termite damage. Paid $75,000.00 for a house that was a disaster. Tore it down for $28,000 including removal of all debris and sold the lot for over 300K in a three week period. The new house someone else built on it cost just over 950K when built. Tear downs are nothing new and sometimes are the only way to get the house you or your wife wants in a place you want to live.
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If it had been 456654 instead of 456658 I would have bought it in a second. Palindromes are fun, ask dad or mom.
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