doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com It pains me to even ask this question.

With the current political situation should I do something I have not wanted to do, and put off doing in buying me a AR 15 or maybe two along with some 30 round mags?
It means putting off the purchase of a Garbi 28 gauge along with a 410 to accomplish this.
I have said for a long time that I need to purchase one or more but I really don't think I will be using it that much. So I stayed on course buying and builing my collections in the side by sides.
The last thing I want is to wake up one day and this country be in absolute melt down and have no way to protect my family.

If you need a ar15 to protect your family you are all screwed. Protection, in a close quarters situation, is handled very well with a 12 ga. shotgun. Unless you are repelling a zombie attack an ar15 does not improve your chances. So buy what you want unless you foresee a zombie outbreak.

If you're going to use it for something like 3 gun, competitive plate shooting, and long range target shooting, go with the AR 15. If you're worried about the collapse of civilization and the rise of anarchy, you should consider an AK 47. Thinking down the road, in a post apacolyotic world it is likely that gun cleaning and materials for firearm maintenance will be scarce and likely to be controlled by the local warlord or feudal authority. The AK 47 will really shine in that environment as you could clean it with sand, mud or raw sewage and it would still fire every time you pull the trigger.

An Israeli Galil would be a good option as well, but parts would be more scarce.

When experiencing a meltdown situation, you want to be able to replenish your ammo supply by taking it away from an aggressor. Will that aggressor be a Russian soldier with an AK-47 or an American soldier or policeman with an AR-15? Right now, we're kind of in the middle. Your chance of using more than a few hundred rounds before being eliminated is very slim.

.223 is actually fairly anemic. .308 would be the far-better option for old guys who don't run and gun well. In a dystopic future, it's pretty hard to predict what you'll need. Medical supplies might be nice to have. Food.....not fun to contemplate.

I've heard that a .308 is better to protect yourself from someone who is shooting at you from behind something, a more likely situation.
Karl

This is craziness. Buy the sxs. Go to the movies if you want to experience dystopia, apocalypse, or zombies because it won't happen in real life...Geo

IMO: ANY good high power rifle or shotgun would serve the purpose of providing personal defense if what you're concerned with is your immediate family and household. You should have an adequate supply of ammunition on hand and Id recommend a supply of critical spare parts.
Beyond this point it would depend upon the situation.

IMO and I want to stress this is just my opinion; there are going to be "Issues" no matter who wins in November. What form these will take and the extent is anyone's guess at this time.
Jim

Ok the end of the world and zombie attack aside is your real question is should you buy it before buying it becomes impossible. Perhaps. But what is to prevent an executive order from being made to outlaw position of high capacity clips or even the Ar15? This is why the continued executive orders being accepted as law is so dangerous to me. And God help us if the Supreme Court ever decides that they carry the same weight as legislation passed and signed into law.

Direct rule by the President scares me much more than zombies, economic meltdown or any other potential natural disaster. You have about 150-175 million people living in cities and surrounding areas who could not feed and support themselves for more than two weeks without massive help. Unlike during the Great Depression when a strong majority of the population lived in rural areas and could to a large extent feed themselves today we can not. So one Ar15 more or less will make little difference.

So it comes down to how important is an Ar15 to you and what you think the chances are that it will be declared illegal by executive order and will you comply. If it is just an itch to own it I would pass. If you are concerned about protecting your family buy it and spit in their eye later if needed.

There are literally dozens of choices. Range determines a lot. Close up a 9mm carbine will suffice. Further out, not so much. Semi-autos are not the only quick repeater. The old 94 Winchester can hold its own through one tube full.

I hate to even think about this but it is now in our face. Regardless of what anyone tells you, a 4473 is and audit trail.