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O.T. except that its an Ithaca, I looked at a nice 1917 Flues 16 ga field grade, 26" bbls, very nice all original cond, fair amount of color left. No photos. Is it worth 500 bucks?

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Originally Posted By: devrep
O.T. except that its an Ithaca, I looked at a nice 1917 Flues 16 ga field grade, 26" bbls, very nice all original cond, fair amount of color left. No photos. Is it worth 500 bucks?


I'd want to see pics and if it destined to be shot use those 7/8oz RST's. I love older Flues, I have a nice 20. Lightweight game guns to be sure but feed them the right stuff.


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O.T. except that its an Ithaca, I looked at a nice 1917 Flues 16 ga field grade, 26" bbls, very nice all original cond, fair amount of color left. No photos. Is it worth 500 bucks?


You could always just buy it and part it out...

Kidding. From the description I would say it is a good deal.

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EVeryone making their high-horse moral statements is telling all of us who disagree that we are immoral, liars, and have no principals.

Guys, is that REALLY what you want to say? If so, then all I can say is that I envy you.

I am 100% serious. If my life were going along so great that when a total stranger does what he wants with his own property that it causes a blood pressure to rise, then it is obvious that you have absolutely nothing difficult in your lives. If you need some real problems to worry about, drop me a PM and I will figure out how you can help me shoulder some of my issues. I am sure many others on this board are in equal or even worse situations than me. A man sold his gun folks, not nuked a country or something.

THis is a totally inannimate object owned by a citizen of this country who wants to maximize his investment. How many of you Hollier Than THou's on this board emailed the seller before he parted out the gun and told him YOU personally would gross up the final bid to be sure he got what he needed to keep it whole? Come on, step on up to the plate and tell us what YOU actually did while sitting behind your little computer screen with all of your superior morals.

I have read this board almost daily for over 10 years. A conservative estimate of days I have logged onto this board and read the posts is 3400 days, almost always multiple times a day. THat is a very consevative number, and it is likely more. In all of that time, I can honestly say that this is the most assanine thread I have ever read on this BBS.

I rarely post at all, and the times I have ever entered a pissing match here can probably be counted on 2 or 3 fingers, including this post I am making now. But this thread is just over the top.

RELAX GUYS-this is all supposed to be fun, remember? We all wear long pants here and no one needs their daddy telling them what is right and what is wrong. I promise each of you Moral Superiors I can find something in your lives that I do not agree with. I can assure you one thing, I absolutely will not tell you how immoral you are and then beat you up in public over it.


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Here's the deal, hot rods....they don't make these guns any longer. It's not like he parted out a 2007 Smith and Wesson.

Is it illegal for a guy to part out a good gun? No. We're all well aware of the US constitution and the rights we have.

Is it a crummy thing to do, to part out a good gun? Of course it is.

So that he might pocket a few extra dollars, the seller eliminated yet another Ithaca. Those extra dollars will probably buy him a Pepper Steak Burger at Chili's and a tank of gas for his daughter's Scion. In 2 days both items will have been exhausted out their respective tailpipes. Had he left the gun together, it might be around another 50 years.

I believe there are two kinds of people in this world - the kind who would part out an undeserving gun is the same as those who take up two parking spaces in a crowded lot, who toss their cigarettes out the window at stoplights, who leave waitresses 4% tips, and who go through all of life with a ME ME ME attitude.

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I don't think the analogy of tearing down an old house is valid here. Old houses can and do become functionally obsolete and also can get to an unrepairable state as the termite infested example cited above. As near as I know; this shotgun was complete and in sound condition and was parted out just for the money aspect. I have no problem with someone parting out an incomplete firearm or one that can't be legally sold any other way(EX: AK47s). Anyway that's how I see it. BTW: I hope the two new "parts" owners reach an agreement and get it back together.
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Originally Posted By: Marc Stokeld
I can assure you one thing, I absolutely will not tell you how immoral you are and then beat you up in public over it.


Marc: I'm not much for picking fights either, but that's quite a spanking you gave us.

You're seriously telling us to lighten up? That we're the ones with a holier-than-thou attitude and high blood pressure? After logging in here every day for the last decade, " ... this is the most assanine thread" you "have ever read on this BBS," and you just can't believe that the people who hang out here would be dismayed to hear that a perfectly good classic double had been scrapped and sold for parts at below market value? Gimme a break!

For what it's worth, I don't question this dealer's morals (too strong a word in my opinion), but I do question his business sense. I'm sure he still made money, but it was $110 less than he planned on, and he had to tear the gun down and ship to multiple buyers. Moreover, I maintain he could have certainly gotten more than $640, and probably the entire $750 he wanted in the first place, if he'd just been a bit more patient or tried a different strategy. I'm just glad that, thanks to Walt and Rob, it sounds like the gun's going to get put back together.

I stand by my earlier post and also agree with every word GregSY says. I can't spend time worrying if that's going to get your panties all in a bunch. We all have a right to state our opinions, and we all go "over the top" now and then, but it's always best to think twice and type once. TT


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Two Triggers, I do sincerely regret making the post. Not because "my panties are in a wad" or because I really do not feel the way I felt when I typed it, but because I am dealing with a group of folks who are much different than I assumed. All of the gun people I know are cut from a very similar cloth-but many posting here are not I guess. Where I come from, when a man calls you a liar and says you have no principals, that is the gravest insult you can recieve. You literally will get in a fight faster by calling someone a liar than by speaking ill of their mother or their wife.

Italiansxs made a moral and honesty statement and started this, and cast a huge shadow over people who part out guns to maximize return. Others chimed in with similar moral statements. With my generation, the words typed he about ma and other people who have done what I have done are literal fighting words. Maybe folks where you are from don't care if they are called dishonest and lacking in morals. I have made no moral judgements on anyone here, yet I keep getting harsher and harsher judgement.

This is the last I will post on this thread, so please feel free to say as you wish with no interference from this point on.

I will say it again, I wish my life was running in such good shape that I could sit around and worry about judging how moral and honest others were by looking at how they sell their possesions while I am hiding behind my computer screen. IIf I start doing that, I would at least hope that I would be man enough to post my real name and location when attacking someone's honesty and charachter, not to mention their parking ability, but I notice a lack of that to in this moral and honesty police force who choose to snipe anonamously from behind their computer screens.

And yes, I really do think this is the worst post I have ever read here. I have read some very stupid posts in the past. But in this post there is a pack mentality coming out where people call other people liars, unprincinipaled, self cenetered, and make judgment statemetns about their character. I feel that is way out of line, yet if I voice my feelings on the matter, I am attacked. A person would literally have to worship an inanimate object in order to make moral judgments of others in this way. There is only one thing I worship, and he was not inanimate and he sure does not hide behind a screen with some non de screen and bad mouth others, much to my undeserving relief.

Well, i am off to cut up some more collectable guns so I can maximize my profit. If you had my medical bills, you would do it too.


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You always know you've won an internet argument when the other side brings up their medical bills.

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Hmm, had this "dealer" a bit more patience, I've no doubt the investment could have been allowed to mature, and his money returned. Yes, it was his gun to part, but, it was foolish and rash to do that for the slim pitance it returned him.
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