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I have been going through the process of developing non-toxic safe loads for my LC Smith and Baker shotguns. I have patterned lots of loads and a certain formula really worked well. I shot geese and ducks with the same formula. I sent the loads for pressure testing The 7/8's oz loads of ITX 10 that patterned the best are at 1309fps and 8950 psi.
The 1oz loads were all at 1312 fps 11650 psi. I have looked at lots of info about safe pressures and it is confusing. I have read the Double
Gun 2006 regarding the actual toughness of these guns. I am not interested in a torture test. Only good shooting loads at safe levels.
Can anyone help me with this?
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that 1oz. load seems awfully hot for those guns
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that 1oz. load seems awfully hot for those guns that 1oz. load seems awfully hot for those guns Agreed. JMO but I wouldn't beat up my old guns with 11.6K loads. Sub 8K in all of my guns except the SKB and Dickinson.
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Are there any commercially available shells in the sub 8K range other than RST? RST aren't available in my area and I don't reload for shotgun.
Jim
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James,
You might look into these but I'd be surprised if you find them local.
RST
Polywad
Gamebore
B&P competition 1
Confirm pressures with the manufacturer.
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RST will ship just about anywhere. However.....Smiths are fairly stout American guns so I wouldn't get too-sweaty about it. Featherlite loads like Winchester's should be OK.
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Lloyd this Smith is 123 years old.(I'll put up some pictures when I can) I had it gently restored and the wall thickness etc. are all just fine. I'm more concerned about putting additional strain of the wood which required the most repair.
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James,
Lloyd is right. I was going to suggest the featherlight but always felt a bit uneasy about Winchester not giving pressure other than Saami compliant. A friend, years ago used them in his Purdey hammergun and at that time, someone had a batch tested and they were low pressure. I think they were the 980FPS load. Probably a good off the shelf choice.
Bill
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Bill:
Featherlight's were another load I looked for here and according to Winchester Wally World carries them However that's NOT apparently true here. I don't intended to turn this gun into a regular shooter so use will only be on an occasional basis.
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James,
Courtesy of Revdoc Drew!
3 Dr. Eq. 1 1/8 oz.
Winchester Trap Load
1,202 fps 9,600 psi
AA Xtra-Lite 1 oz WAAL12
1189 fps 8000 psi
AA 'Low noise Low recoil' 15/16 oz
980 fps 6,200 psi
Hope this helps and as always a big thanks to the Rev.
Bill Johnson
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