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Depends which set of compromises you want to deal with.
In general, the Beretta 391 is very close to a general purpose shotgun. I've no experience with the 400 series guns, so I can't comment but the 391 is an excellent platform and 'bent carrier syndrome' can be dealt with by swapping out the carrier assembly with the 390 version from Cole's. I've done that with two of them, and they both run 100% now.
I have a 20 gauge Cordoba and just to stir the pot I can't see what the gun looks like from my vantage point when shooting it. It's the softest 20ga I've ever used, has a decent trigger, and I'd buy another if this one went missing.
The current Remington products are simply not competitive. I have a few of the old 70's and 80's 1100's that see limited use, but that is such an old and dated design I can hardly recommend it in the world of modern Italian automatics. The current 1100 .410 does not last 50 shells before it breaks the part on the action bar where the bolt rides. Sintered parts have replaced the old 'more expensive' stuff that actually worked. Remington cannot fix those guns.
The 'Optima' 391s by the way, if a wood stock, are all bored with a hole to accept a 7 oz recoil reducer in the stock. There are many different weights available for the magazine cap too. You can add weight to this lightweight aluminum frame gun if you so wish and make it as heavy and dead handling as a K-80. They don't recoil much when the weight gets north of 9 pounds!
Good luck. Autos are fun. Just a different aspect of the hobby.
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Jam-O-Matics are fine but this is the absolute best repeater on the planet being built today. You don't have to stay up all night cleaning it, you don't have to baby it, you don't have to hope and pray it doesn't jam in extreme cold weather and it will shoot any ammo you put in it. http://ithacagun.com/28gauge.php
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Jam-O-Matics are fine but this is the absolute best repeater on the planet being built today. You don't have to stay up all night cleaning it, you don't have to baby it, you don't have to hope and pray it doesn't jam in extreme cold weather and it will shoot any ammo you put in it. http://ithacagun.com/28gauge.php What he said, my duck gun is made in Ohio. I will change out the AAA wood with Grade A before the season starts, for clays might as well have a good looking gun: Not too long ago it was common knowledge in these parts that anything other than a Benelli in the duck blind eventually became a single shot. The Beretta 391 and now X400 have changed that. I have a Benelli Ultralight for upland and a Benelli Sport original with HK in red letters on the side for clays. I shoot the 30" Supersport extremely well as do many people. The Cordoba is the hunting version of it. If the Cordoba wasn't ported I'd likely own one of those too no matter how ugly it may appear. Heck the Benelli Vinci makes the Cordoba look sexy LOL. But nothing wrong with the Beretta SA guns either.
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buy american steel.
an old winchester model 50.
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My sentiment is with bobski. During my semi-auto madness before I went back exclusively to doubles, I owned Model 50, 1100 and Breda 12 and 20 ga. All performed flawlessly, Bredas particularly in competitions and afield. I haven't heard Breda mentioned in 30-35 years.
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Those Bredas are sharp. Imma gonna gettta one a those.
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...and if you ever get pissed at Boss & Co. give me a shout.
____________________________ Fack Brussels. Careful there lonesome. You're treading dangerously close to talking about double guns.
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Why would you not pursue your rights as a customer? You could have contacted your credit card issuer and forced a charge back
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every breda i owned kicked like a mule.
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