I get a kick out of the dealers who state in their ads- "Pre-64" for the Model 97 pumpguns- hell yes, it was discontinued in 1957, seven years before WRA "screwed their own pooch" and dropped the Model 12 and the good Mauser actioned Model 70's-- Some of these numbnutz actually think the Model 1912 Winchester was the predecessor to the Model 12 Winchester-- Model 1912 from 1912 (surprise) to 1919, when WRA decided to drop the numerals 1 and 9 from the barrel roll stamping die, hence the Model 12- trying to convince them of that fact is like trying to shove a pound of melted butter up a cougar's [censored] with a red hot poker, while in a phone booth with said critter-

"The field is the touchstone of the man"..