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In classic fashion, reason bounces off the left. I have yet to read one single defense of Hillary Clinton's lying as Secretary of State regarding her emails. This stuff is on the record, unassailable fact. Yet her supporters here and elsewhere just ignore it, as though it never happened.
But eight women claim Trump groped them and now Trump's a rapist.
Chris and King. I'm asking this question directly to each of you.
How do you reconcile Clinton's on the record lies regarding her emails as Secretary of State as someone worthy of your support? And don't go off on a tangent about Trump because we all know you were supporting Clinton from long before Trump became the nominee.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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James, my opinion of Clinton has been declared here many times. I believe she's untrustworthy, as I do all politicians unless they have demonstrated otherwise, but Clinton particularly for the millions she makes for being Clinton, part of a corrupted, dysfunctional US political system that's can't provide better choices for the most influential office in the world.
All the goings-on now about the election is a phenomenon in itself. Members have indicated clearly in posts it's been over for months, from the response to my posts last spring that the Republican choice would produce the biggest rout in American history---and reasons why. Americans will choose the only adult in a disgraceful performance visited upon the world.
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part of a corrupted, dysfunctional US political system that's can't provide better choices for the most influential office in the world.. Now that's amusing. Considering the corruption is due to indoctrination into America of your sociopathic, Marxist, statist religion. Comrade Sralin, your ideology is the problem, not the solution.
I prefer wood to plastic, leather to nylon, waxed cotton to Gore-Tex, and split bamboo to graphite.
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I'll take your word for it, Ken: It is corrupted, dysfunctional. Worse, you could have added Trump and Putin are scratching each other's backs.
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Good answer King.
So...with lies told to date, who do you feel tells the most egregious and damaging lies....Trump as the campaigner or Clinton as Sec of State?
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This election has followed the pattern set in1992. The Democrats are following Psychopolitical doctrine developed by the Soviets. It's all about typical statist,religious demonization of Republicans, all without running on their own beliefs which would be rejected by a majority of Americans. You can always count on dupes, minions, and useful idiots like Comrade Sralin to spout the sociopathic mythology of the Democrat party line.
I prefer wood to plastic, leather to nylon, waxed cotton to Gore-Tex, and split bamboo to graphite.
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this makes just as much sense
This election has followed the pattern set in1992. The republicans are following Psychopolitical doctrine developed by the Soviets. It's all about typical statist,religious demonization of democrats, all without running on their own beliefs which would be rejected by a majority of Americans. You can always count on dupes, minions, and useful idiots like Comrade Sralin to spout the sociopathic mythology of the republicans party line.
the political methods described have only been in practice for a few centuries. Early 20th Century media puts today's to shame for pure lurid and slander
have another day Dr.WtS
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Meh,
I'd say that there are clear philosophical differences between the parties. But, that line has been considerably blurred over the last couple of decades. Hence Trump.
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Chris and King. I'm asking this question directly to each of you.
How do you reconcile Clinton's on the record lies regarding her emails as Secretary of State as someone worthy of your support? And don't go off on a tangent about Trump because we all know you were supporting Clinton from long before Trump became the nominee.
James, I justify my support for Clinton as the better to two choices. One has her flaws. The other is just dangerous to stability. I explained this in the Day starter thread. For the record, I do not agree with any of your above premises about her lying as SoS w/ respect to Benghazi, emails and so forth to be taken as fact. To much gets distorted by partisan inquiries and that goes both ways. I think this John Oliver segment is instructive on my take on it. Pretty much agree with his assessment 100% https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Lfd1aB9YIMy support for Clinton is also justified in that I agree with the platform of the party that nominated her. I would of rather it been Bernie, but that is not the case and I am not sore about all the shenanigans because politics is a contact sport. I do not agree in any sense with the GOP's platform and I not fooled by Trumps's empty promises. I do not care who implements sound democratic policy, so long as it gets implemented. I am certain of who would not implement it. Lastly, you should note that I do take the time to answer your inquiries. A courtesy that is not being returned from the last several inquires I made of you with respect to Trump's policies and concern for Russian interference with our democratic process to undermine our election.
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Chris, while I have a relatively busy life, like most of us, I do try to respond to direct questions. Comments, on the other hand, sometimes elicit a response and sometimes don't. It depends on how I feel, again, I think like most of us. That said, I often miss stuff. I'm a bit frothy this weekend because I'm getting ready to go to Nebraska for the better part of a week AND I'm trying to buy a Lindner. Having difficulty staying focused on anything other than the Lindner.
If I have missed responding directly to a direct question, I apologize.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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