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I buy but don't sell pumps. There's a niche within a niche within a niche that probably fits the age descriptions and categories above. There are diehard fans of pumps. Some prefer M12's; some prefer M37's. And among the latter, some prefer 16's and other sub gauges. 12 gauges don't appeal to me, but the lightness, cost and heritage of the old M12's, but especially the Ithacas and Rem. 17's have grabbed and held my attention over the years. I especially like to hunt with them. The older M37's in subgauge cost less than the corresponding gauges in the M12, but are no less desirable to me. At 5.75 lbs, a 1939 plain barreled M37 Ithaca is unmatched in weight by most currently made 20 gauge doubles, o/u or sxs, autos and pumps. Gil
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Bladeswitcher, I could not agree more.
Over my life, I have had a reasonable interest in cars, boats and guns. The pricing of each of those has followed the pattern you describe and I had come to the same conclusion a number of years ago. Beware of generalizations. He brought up model A Fords, (done it myself, right here) and, true enough, the market is soft on those, today, compared to where it was. He DID NOT bring up Auburn, Cord, Franklin, Stutz, Dusenberg, Hispanio Suisa, pre-war Mercedes, pre-war Chris Craft boats, brass cars, and a host of other stuff that the market is anything but soft on. If someone out there has lost the storage for their Auburn boat tailed Speedster, or, for that matter, their Muntz Jet, and just wants it to go to a good home, look me up. Best, Ted
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Bladeswitcher, I could not agree more.
Over my life, I have had a reasonable interest in cars, boats and guns. The pricing of each of those has followed the pattern you describe and I had come to the same conclusion a number of years ago. Beware of generalizations.... I think formative years matter, but I suspect the only comment that was mixed in that really matters had to do with being able to afford things. After going through many forgettable things, I think acquired tastes take over. For some things, I'll passingly think, I wish I knew then what I know now. If the car example held true, why aren't there a bunch of thirty and forty somethings 'investing' in those great cookie cutter cars that their folks drove them to baseball practice in the eighties. Even if markets go soft here and there, it seems like some things stand the test of time better than others.
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I've seen Bladeswitcher's explanation for desires many times. I think it's true over all.
I always understood it as.."That which you truly coveted when you reached age of adulthood, you will long for again in middle age." and that drives markets.
Nostalgia and resources. A fatal combination.
Out there doing it best I can.
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[quote=Ted Schefelbein][quote=canvasback]Bladeswitcher, I could not agree more.
If the car example held true, why aren't there a bunch of thirty and forty somethings 'investing' in those great cookie cutter cars that their folks drove them to baseball practice in the eighties. Even if markets go soft here and there, it seems like some things stand the test of time better than others. The car thing may be done. The auto makers no longer make cars that capture people's imagination. I don't ever see a collector's market for Honda Accords.
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What about AWD Eagle's? Or the last of the El Camino's? Pinto Sport wagons? Volkswagon camper vans? The remake of the Ford Mustang "Bullit" model?
I think there are a few low volume gems out there that people still long for. That's all it takes to make a market.
I keep missing out on Abarth Scorpione 1300's. But, time will tell.
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Bob, just down the road from me has a Model 12 Pigeon Skeet in 28 gauge.
Went back to Winnie at some time in the past and has a post vent rib, nice wood, and is spotless. Looks new.
Any takers at $10k ?
"The price of good shotgunnery is constant practice" - Fred Kimble
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Bob, just down the road from me has a Model 12 Pigeon Skeet in 28 gauge.
Went back to Winnie at some time in the past and has a post vent rib, nice wood, and is spotless. Looks new.
Any takers at $10k ? Put it on Gunbroker, it will sell.
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The M12 28 ga. is a faker's delight. Best be careful on those guns. Gil
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Gil: I have been told that there are more fake 28s than real ones & most of the fakes are upgraded guns.
Some great summaries of Boomer buying habits, but when the Boomers stop......guns, cars, art, etc. will all suffer a significant setback. Buy what you love and use and don't focus so much on the "investment ". If it all works out, great. If it doesn't, it shouldn't matter because you loved and used it.
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