I buy but don't sell pumps. There's a niche within a niche within a niche that probably fits the age descriptions and categories above. There are diehard fans of pumps. Some prefer M12's; some prefer M37's. And among the latter, some prefer 16's and other sub gauges. 12 gauges don't appeal to me, but the lightness, cost and heritage of the old M12's, but especially the Ithacas and Rem. 17's have grabbed and held my attention over the years. I especially like to hunt with them. The older M37's in subgauge cost less than the corresponding gauges in the M12, but are no less desirable to me. At 5.75 lbs, a 1939 plain barreled M37 Ithaca is unmatched in weight by most currently made 20 gauge doubles, o/u or sxs, autos and pumps. Gil