yes, we have some great locations here in the UP. This year the grouse hunting has been very good, at least in the area's that I hunt. Of my 12ga. M12's one is a 3" Mag. Duck that I found up here a few years ago. Very good condition for 40's gun that for some reason did not get much hard use. I also have a 12 ga. M25 that I like. I don't know why they were not more popular. Just cause they can't be taken down does not seem like that much of a problem.