Yep, I am talking about Obama and all the rest. Fiat's greatest proponent in modern times---for the good---was FDR with all his sweet-talk, jiggery pokery and arm-twisting to get his peoples' head out of the sand and go to war.

craig, with split in US sentiment, the left will be moaning as much as the right, their parties torn in twain, neither knowing what's coming from their declared wrecker-in-chief. Portents same for US and forum. Bashing's not "near over."