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I think good observations Bill. I have no real idea, but it seems to have Americanized styling points.
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Left and center buttplates came off from G&H stocks. Right is unused plate from John Warren, the engraver. [img:center]http:// [/img]
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Poorhouse, The butt plate is exactly like the one on the left. Keep in mind that it is marked twice "Germany". I would imagine that G&H may have acquired their plates from the same supplier. Now the interesting thing would be if at some point G&H actually stocked this rifle. Whoopee LOL. I looked under the butt plate and there isn't any markings. I haven't removed the gripcap yet. Did G&H mark their 2 pieces stocks and if so where? A G&H connection would explain the drop points, the fine custom sight, the rear swivel is also the same as found on some of their rifles, and last the no proof marks on the action. The question , and I don't see any pictures on the web , is did G&H use the shadow line detail on the cheek piece.
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before I post pics of the rear sight I thought I would share the following picture. This is the forearm on the left side and you can see the wood has been notched out (very professionally) for what I assume had been a scope mount when it had its original barrel. Very much looks like a G&H side mount modification. What do you think:
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Great set of pictures LRF.
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I wish Mark Bennenson were here. I think he'd say that the cutout in the forearm was for a G&H mount base. My next guess is that the rifle has been rebarreled but that the owner didn't transfer the mount to the new barrel. I know Mark had some G&H single shots with bases attached to the barrel.
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Refurbished is a miss leading statement or could be. I am quite confident that the only work done to the rifle has been the rebarreling for what ever reason. The stocks are original and and have not been sanded in the least. The finish has all the correct patina for the rifles apparent age. When the new barrel was added the scope mount was not reattached. The rebarrel job is nice but pretty gunsmithy and not done by a top end custom smith. Its adqueate but not top end. I did talk to Paul at G&H and asked him to look at thread and its pictures. He did say that stocks made by G&H weren't always marked. He also said that the drop points were something he would think are Griffin&Howe-ish. Isn't that rear sight neat? Don't see something like that everyday and so 1920ish IMO
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Checking my "gun porn" folder, I found these two G&H stocks that have the same cheek piece treatment as yours. Unfortunately, I don't have any more information about them, other than they were made in the 20's.
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Thank you Greg, I am not ready to call this a G&H rifle but your share has lifted the corners of my mouth. There sure seems to be a number of points of evidence pointing in the G&H direction.
I did find some pictures of a G&H Farquharson in which the maker of the action also was unknown. It had a G&H serial number and address on the barrel but nothing on the action. So quite similar to this rifle. Wish I had its original barrel.
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