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I could always cock "IOne" hammer as quickly as I can push off a safety, quicker than any safety other than a tang safety. I have small hands though with a short thumb so do not feel safe trying to thumb back two at the same time. Consequently although I admire the beauty & lines of a good hammer double I have done the vast majority of my hunting with hammerless guns. Safety is for the most part a matter of the shooter rather than the gun. I have to date never had a hammerless "Jar Off" though I do realize it has happened on occasion. I once while navigating a rather steep hillside stepped on a rock which rolled & I went down to the ground & slammed my hammerless Lefever real hard, it didn't go off.
 Personally I will never carry a gun open except on a very limited basis. This might entail if should happen to meet another hunter/s I might open the gun as we approached out of courtesy. I can very easily had I taken the above described tumble with my gun broken open it could very easily have put a tremendous twisting strain on the barrel which could have caused severe damage. Something to think about. "IF" I have to navigate an area through which I consider it unsafe to do so with a loaded & closed gun, I unload & reclose the gun.   When I get safely through the area I then reload.
 The unexpected is of course what we have to take into account. The above instance of the rolling rock is an example. It occurred  one day while I was trying to navigate into position to pot a squirrel for the pot & was intent on looking up in the tree. I generally squirrel hunted with a 22LR but on this particular day had carried the Lefever for some reason.
 It did however reaffirm my belief that a Lefever is not particularly susceptible to jarring off with their top hung sears & that a gun is not near so susceptible to being damaged when closed as when open. Take all this for whatever its worth to you, it didn't cost you anything.
 
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Hey, fun post!  I use mine for hunting, but also for pasture clays with my kids.  They sure are a hoot to hunt with.  Anyway, here's mine: 12b James Harkom  16ga Carl Glouch (Made by Franz Soda)  16b D. Gotobed (damascus bbls)  12ga Siace 350G (this is a self cocking ejector gun)  12ga Bernadelli Italia  12b Samuel B. Allport  Best, Greg 
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A Joseph Harkom pinfire.  So far, huns, sharptails, pheasant, and badger.  Who knows it's story in the 150 years before I owned it ? 
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I have a 12 gauge Husqvarna M51.  I like it a lot, but I can't cock both hammers at once.  Are some guns easier to do that with?Regards,
 Jeff
 
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I have a 12 gauge Husqvarna M51.  I like it a lot, but I can't cock both hammers at once.  Are some guns easier to do that with?Regards,
 Jeff
certainly-  part of it is the stiffness of the spring -  and i personally think the ones with higher spurs make it easier -  for both the grip and the leverage.  My Clabrough is an early number is the later low hammer design - its a wider action, being a 10 and not a lot of spur poking up -  that one is always one at a time.  the picture angle is a little low-  but the spurs start near the level of top tang and barely clear the height of the short top lever    In contrast, my 12 bore Wm Moore & Grey is a light gun with a narrow wrist and higher spurs and a longer top lever-  easily both at once   If I remember right - Bill's H&H is a stiff one -  I don't think I can do that one both at once |  |  |  
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My experience in general is that non rebounding hammers are easier to cock.  The various makers of all hammer guns seem to have different cocking ease. |  |  |  
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Mine works fine on second season doves:  And on Wood ducks:  I do not know who built it but it is badged to a Christchurch, NZ hardware store.  It has Birmingham proofs...Geo |  |  |  
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Nice duck blind Geo., looks like you're not afraid to rough it a little. |  |  |  
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Thank all for your posts. Those at great guns.Question for Daryl.  Can you show us how you make the pinfire cartridges?
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It's nice seeing all those hammerguns out in the field. 
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