No apology needed and no offense taken.

My point is some posts are pointed as personal diatribes and not helpful. I Normally abstain from commenting on them, but this thread just tripped my trigger.

I accept the correction on NID vs Nitro Special.

Upgrade vs Customized is in some respects subjective. It would be nice if the language used in gun industry was consistent, but there are examples of the companies themselves for advertising purposes twisting things about.

I agree you defining the actions on the guns as customization is a better terminology than mine of Upgrade and accept that "Upgrade" is better used if the gun was changed to reflect the specific features of a higher grade gun. The only challenge when looking at specific models or grades is that the companies themselves were not consistent on their features within their grading as many of the higher grades were custom orders.

All said the thread which started with the focus of whether the gun left factory with the engraving, carving et al or was an after market job I believe the collective wisdom is it did not.

I find the reasoning of those who held that on both this site and the Lefever site sound in terms of the metal fit, model, and knowledge of then factory products convincing.

Last edited by old colonel; 01/06/17 11:22 AM.

Michael Dittamo
Topeka, KS