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trw999, thank you for this link. I have read this information before, but I sent letter to THE BIRMINGHAM PROOF HOUSE MUSEUM. may be, they can help me ?!
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This is one of the transition guns between hammer and hammerless. I don't think it's a Cashmore patent,not too rare but not seen very often. Yes, you are right . this is something between hammer and hammerless. I am collecting guns more than 20 years, and I have seen such gun in a first time. If you have seen such system before ( not Fukert from Weipert), show me and other members, please.
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These guns pop up at auctions from time to time. Holts had one last year. I don't collect pictures of guns but if I run across something I'll post it or a link.
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The proofs definitely appear to be Birmingham. My memory may not be right but I was thinking the chamber mark, IE, 12/C was not used until 1887. At the same time the "Tween" bore sizes were added as in 13/1 so while this one was proofed as a 13 it could actually have been a bit larger, just not enough to accept a 12.gauge plug gage.
Miller/TN I Didn't Say Everything I Said, Yogi Berra
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I left out an image of the rear side of the lock: ![](http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv337/ellenbrs/cashmore%20lock%20bridle%20side_zpslqh7my9x.jpg) ![](http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv337/ellenbrs/54269354-f57b-481e-aa29-445a9b6a3b6d_zpsdfm3gmsj.jpg) Cheers, Raimey rse
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Raimey, I am looking at the interior of the lock. Is there an interior hammer in that lock you picture ? Is the firing pin on the interior ?
Last edited by Daryl Hallquist; 01/07/17 10:32 AM.
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Very good eye there Mr. Hallquist. It appears you are wearing your correct monocle today? The striker is external from this image. ![](http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv337/ellenbrs/English%20Trade%20Guns/0f8598c5-f14b-4ec5-a8c0-1248192e98ea_zpsmah2wl2t.jpg) Cheers, Raimey rse
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If the striker is external, maybe the initials inside the lockplate are Bentley's . Was it David Bentley ?
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![](http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv337/ellenbrs/English%20Trade%20Guns/bentley%20pattent%20drawings_zpspcduejzi.jpg) Joseph Bentley - July 30. 1844 patent application - Nr. 10,280 Cheers, Raimey rse
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