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Ed,
I'm sure you read the previous posts before you decided on the tone and narrative of your response.
The facts laid out were not a result of "idle speculation" but actual analysis of the factual pattern of a seller-buyer relationship, in respect to bidding and auction results
No doubt you just skimmed the thread and inadvertantly missed the provided information. Perhaps you should review the thread and consider changing your position.
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Ken
I prefer wood to plastic, leather to nylon, waxed cotton to Gore-Tex, and split bamboo to graphite.
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"factual pattern" ? ah don tink so...more like negative speculation...looking for trouble...
an ah ax again...why post this nonsense here... at the risk of causing the seller to possibly lose bidders?
Last edited by ed good; 01/12/17 03:11 PM.
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Ed, I never accused anyone of anything. As per the title of the thread, 'bidding observations.' All this info. is public if you just click on the number after the sellers and buyers name. I'm not trashing anyone's rep., just wondering if anyone here may have had the same thing happen to them. It's not fake news, it's all public for anyone to see and they can come to their own conclusions.
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Besides, Ed, in the title I put "Off Topic". You don't have to click and read if you don't want.
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Looks odd to see one buyer, only buy from one seller, for the last six years plus years. It is interesting to see how many other non winning auctions he bid on for this seller. If any one buyer bids on only one seller's auctions and ends up placing multiple bids on multiple auctions most of which he does not win then I'd suspect more attention is needed.
Where is the proof asked Ed? Take a look at auction 14369509 a winner. See a familiar bidder? Try 14315017, 14315008, 14291366, 14315018 he lost all of these. I picked ten recent completed auctions for the seller. You can go back as far as you like All the ones above have one common bidder. He did not win any other auctions but did bid on them. Either he loves this sellers stuff or he is stalking him. Since he has not won any other auctions, from any other sellers, in the last six years, I doubt he has bid on very many others. He might win one by accident and have a new seller feedback. But they both might be legit, sometimes a cigar is a cigar. When in doubt just refuse to bid on the sellers auctions. Don't caught up in their games.
I've seen several sellers who have multiple id's. Some buy under one name or ID and sell under the other. Some use the same name on multiple sites and some use a different name on every site. I pay a lot of attention to location. Rare for two sellers to both be in the same town. Also watch for repeated use of the same photos by more than one seller. We all note the same gun being sold several times by the same seller. Non payment is one reason, return under a 3 day inspection period is another. But if it happens too often you begin to suspect a pattern.
So Ed do you see a possible pattern? As to contacting Gun Auction or GunBroker don't bother. They give lip service at best. And I understand their position. A seller is a source of income, a buyer is not. Who do you think they have a vested interest in?
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ky: so, first you suggest buyer and seller in question appear to be in cahouts, due to purely circumstantial evidence...shame on you for trashing their reps here...
and then you claim gunbroker and gunauction customer service are non responsive to buyers...do you have any experience to support your claim? if so, please do relate it here...
meantime, i have been a buyer on both gunbroker and gunauction for in excess of 10 years now...i have had problems with sellers on both sites who refuse to follow the rules...in all cases customer service was responsive to my complaints and helped resolve seller issues to my satisfaction...pm for details, if you like...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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an as for you redo, have you contacted gunauction customer service with your concerns? and what was their response?
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everyone do your home work if you see shady work or patterns like this don't buy.i see this as good advice and great advice for people who don't use the auction sites often or at all.also ed has the results ever been in the sellers favor or are you always the one who has there complaint upheld by the auction /site.
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mc: both web sites have clear rules...play by the rules and you will always be supported...
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RedofTx, thanks for posting. Most of us appreciate the heads up.
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