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Unless you can proove it was associated with that sick bastard, and prove it, then the value is that of a French Guild gun. Good condition 500-700. Now if you can find a newspaper article with photo showing that sick bastard presenting that gun to some nazi "hero" some Nazi memorabilia collector might pay a lot more.

The person that was given to was not a famous or high ranking person. For that they never would have used a French Guild gun. It would have been a German made gun for propaganda reasons.

They would never use a French gun?
I think they would, as a war trophy from the recent Blitzkrieg in France. They must have plundered wagons of them. And re-proofed them to show they don't trust the French.
What I think could be suspicius with this piece is the Luftwaffe eagle on the stock, like the one on the famous pilot's drilling by Sauer.

With kind regards,
Jani

Gents,
someone with the anonymous name of Calin is trying to use
your experience/skill/goodwill to test the market/price-evaluate a
Nazi-collectors object of a gun with either fake/not-fake/
WW II-booty /characteristics.
I recommend he should contact Hermann Historica in Germany.
They are trading with such stuff.
Sincerely
Felix Neuberger

I am under the impression as well that likely the real purpose of this thread is to find a value, which I guess there is nothing wrong with. Whether the OP is buying or selling is unclear.

A Unnamed French gun. They would used one for a minor "person". But for some big shot I doubt it. Now if the gun was Louie 16's personal gun maybe. All that gun is to me is a Guild gun which there were a million of them that was confiscated with the occupation and sent back to Germany. It was repaired and then got German proof marks because of the work. Perhaps the work was nothing more than being engraved with that sick b. Signature.

As to being faked, who knows. If fake Nazi marking are as common as fake Wells Fargo markings then anything is possible. To me that gun does not seem to have any direct connection with H. but was most likely used as a gift from his office to some minor official. Perhaps a mayor who sucked up to him. Perhaps a SS trooper who killed 50 Russians with his bare hands or worse. It was for sure not a gift to him.

The engraving inscription on the barrels looks a tad fresh to me and not the product of 70 year's wear. Although I am only going by a photo. Mind you I was born suspicious. His mate Herman Goering was a big hunting buff and had an impressive gun collection. It would need provable provenance to be worth anything. In England as a plain non-ejector gun like that it would be lucky to make �100 to �150. Lagopus.....

Thanks all for the Comments I would like more Information about that Shotgun "
And a little History "
I hawe buyet that Shotgun from old man from Germany
I don't know more information "

Pooch posted Amen to that.

Because there are lunatics still amongst us who are both gullible and in funds, NAZI memorabilia of all sorts commands very high prices. The vast majority of such "memorabilia" is the work of fakers, forgers, duckers and divers, having large and busy manufactories supplying a flourishing market.

Remember "The Hitler Diaries"? And the "Hitler Pictures"?

Have a shufti at this one ... only $26,000 to you Sir; another French gun with impeccable provenance ... HH must have cornered the market in this stuff.





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The first reaction I have on seeing this sort of stuff isn't "Is it genuine?" so much as "What solid evidence exists that shows this isn't a fake?"

Eug

Actually, sharp shooter is the slightly more accurate translation. A sniper with a cheap French made side-by-side- like Wild Bill Hickok with a pair of cap pistols instead of his 1851 Colt Navy pistols-- The German Eagle and Swastika are not correct either, and as Himmler hated the French almost as much as he hated those of the Jewish faith, to present him with a double shotgun with French steel markings instead of Krupp Flusstahl- a real "sock in the kisser"--This smells like a bogus deal to me. Der Fuchs.

RWTF,

Wouldn't it be nice if some Jewish Frenchman, an engraver, is currently sunning himself on the Riviera and laughing his socks off?

Eug