Yeah, that's the same family of gun. I don't want to use 1 1/4oz on starlings, the gun may be changing homes, and the prospective new owner is a stickler for versatility, though he never hunts anything but partridge. I'll have to show him some of my patterning papers sometime. If the patent date for this model of gun was 1914, they were produced until 1927 I believe. If 1 1/4oz at the 3 1/4dram velocity of 1220fps was the heaviest load around when this gun was first made that's what I'll tell him the max is.

Last edited by huntingsgr8; 02/07/17 07:59 PM.