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The pre-98 guns require no forms or paper work...
they are below the BaTf rAdar are they not ?
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pre-98 is non gun under the law... no age requirement, backround check or FFL required.
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Dern fellows, there sure seems to be a lot of sour apples about George L. Is this because he has more toys than the rest of you?
If it is OK with the site owner why can't you folks just let it alone?
I've always felt if you don't like the price of a fellows trade, then make him and offer, George L. is not WALMART. The worst he can do is say no.
I've always felt you can start high and hope for the best, it's looks funny when you try to go up in price.
Has anybody found out for sure that George L. is not a horse trader? If he is , he's got my respect.
I don't have any trade with FFL holders, for the most part they don't have what I want, The other part of that is, the majority do think they are WALMART.
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George L. does not have an FFL, nor does he have an import license, a machine gun license or a license to kill. He has a Real Estate Broker's license. That's it!
George L YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!! All those guns for sale on a commercial site and no FFL !!!!! ?????? If I were making any profit at all I would be seriously afraid of a visit from the ATF boys. Seems that I remember last year some guys here in the St. Louis area received just such a "visit" for being in the firearm business without a license. Yowswers.... What am I missing?
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I didn't suggest that George would be in the clear if he had a C&R license or that ALL his items are C&R eligible. Quite the contrary. What I didn't make clear is that the ATF is careful about which privileges they grant to collectors--at least in the boilerplate on the application. Not an end-run around an FFL. George does have what I termed a "stealth" license (none at all). It's not hard to foresee a determination which would find George an unlicenced dealer and his protestation to the contrary of very little weight. If you read carefully back thru this wrangle, Dave Weber has said much the same in the message containing the thumbsup on George selling here. A long rope hidden in the apparent benevolence.
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as long as a transfer is done through an FFL I'm thinking Mr. Lander should be fine.
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Posted by Dave Weber: I'm giving the guy the benefit of the doubt...
He replied to my email promptly and I believe his reply was sincere. In addition he assured me he would compensate me for any items sold off the BBS.
I am surprised at the number of firearms he has...I have an FFL and have never had that many items in inventory...ever! Also, if he has been doing this for years...with out an FFL? Well, that would eventually come around to bite him in the butt. jack
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From what I understand he does not have "any" FFL,neither a 01FFL (dealer) or 03FFL (C&R).
If he is buying guns with the intent to resell at a profit then he needs a 01 Dealer license.
If he is buying guns for his "own personal collection" and they are either on the list or 50 years old and,again,is NOT buying them with the intent to resell at a profit then he needs a 03 FFL collector license.
Simple stuff and not worth a visit from the guys in the black Suburbans to mess around (they are NOT anything like "ladies" at the Real Estate Commission!).
Last edited by Dave K; 07/07/07 01:26 PM.
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