Good grief. If we all liked the same stuff it'd be an awfully dull existence. I love the lines on my Ideal, plume ramp and swamped rib. I've also become so used to the clean lines of no top lever that after looking at some pics of round action Dicksons, I removed them from my bucket list. How's that for heresy? smile Stan- as usual, a lot of what you say makes sense for ejectors and how/where you shoot. Two observations: 1) If I were shooting clays and the guys behind me were so uptight about the extra second it took me for the extractors, I'd let them "play through" or find another clays course. 2) Where I hunt, often in heavy cover or shin high grass, ejectors suck. I've upland hunted with them and hated them. My Arrieta sent them out so fast and far, a friend (after they went whizzzing by him) asked me if I'd ever chronographed them. There is one sxs left on my bucket list (yeah, I know, but really), and I would not pass on it if it were to have ejectors. Where I hunt and what I do, extractors rock. Mike


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