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I thank all for their input
Keith, I especially thank you for very useful commentary. You are always so considerate. Bless You.
I am actually surprised noone cleans as I grew up doing, but that is really why I asked the question as I am curious about the use of the barrel vise and cleaning horizontally versus vertically.
I noted some discussion of cleaning with a drill. On rare occasion I have used a drill with bronze wool on a bronze brush on occasion but do so minimally as I am concerned about barrel wear on vintage guns. While I know the bronze brush is of no danger the overall abrasion from the drill is my concern. Am I being too careful?
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Can you be too careful when handling a shotgun that may be worth as much or more than a three bedroom house?
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I thank all for their input
Keith, I especially thank you for very useful commentary. You are always so considerate. Bless You.
I am actually surprised noone cleans as I grew up doing, but that is really why I asked the question as I am curious about the use of the barrel vise and cleaning horizontally versus vertically.
I noted some discussion of cleaning with a drill. On rare occasion I have used a drill with bronze wool on a bronze brush on occasion but do so minimally as I am concerned about barrel wear on vintage guns. While I know the bronze brush is of no danger the overall abrasion from the drill is my concern. Am I being too careful? Probably. What abrasion can there be from the use of a drill with a bronze brush, above the contact of the brush with the bore? Are you allowing the rod itself to scrub against the chamber or muzzle? SRH
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Hey old colonel, always glad to help! I see you have another question: My answer to you is that someone as anal-retentive as you can never be too careful. Why would you risk having the leather strap on that wimpy Merrington vise break loose? Here you go:  I'll second (or third or fourth) the vise. I just use one of my shop vises, with either the lead or rubber jaw liners. You can really go at the bores with a variety of brushes/tools that way.
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Ken Aw geez Ken, next we'll have Larry Brown and Grouse Guy Ben Deeble going on and on about bald eagles dying from lead poisoning after being clamped in a barrel vise with lead jaws. But seriously, this whole exchange leaves me now wondering if it is best to clamp my guns horizontally or vertically when applying grease to the hinge pins.
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When it comes to Vintage Guns, being "Anal Retentive" is a positive trait. It supports the concept of "first, do no harm" when working on or caring for these guns.
I freely admit I have the trait, and admire it in others. Requesting information from others is always a good idea, however mundane the topic appears to some.
When using a rod and drill for the bores, I always use a breech bushing made from a shell base drilled to accept the rod diameter.
Regards
Ken
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But seriously, this whole exchange leaves me now wondering if it is best to clamp my guns horizontally or vertically when applying grease to the hinge pins. Would that be muzzle up, or muzzle down ? O.M
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But seriously, this whole exchange leaves me now wondering if it is best to clamp my guns horizontally or vertically when applying grease to the hinge pins. Would that be muzzle up, or muzzle down ? O.M That would be "muzzle down", especially if you're using your "Butt Crack" as an improvised vise.  Regards Ken
I prefer wood to plastic, leather to nylon, waxed cotton to Gore-Tex, and split bamboo to graphite.
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I have a good sized vice mounted on my gun bench with homemade jaw liners of leather covered wood (spruce). It's on a corner of the bench and angled so that when a barrel is being held, one end is above my shop garbage can. Secure and no mess.
Beside my wood cleaning rods I also use a brass rod in a older cordless drill. I have never bothered with a breech bushing as Ken does but am quite careful.
While it's not that difficult to hold the barrels while cleaning, having them securely but safely positioned in the vice just makes the whole process easier and simpler.
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When it comes to Vintage Guns, being "Anal Retentive" is a positive trait. It supports the concept of "first, do no harm" when working on or caring for these guns.
I freely admit I have the trait, and admire it in others. Requesting information from others is always a good idea, however mundane the topic appears to some.
When using a rod and drill for the bores, I always use a breech bushing made from a shell base drilled to accept the rod diameter.
Regards
Ken Ken, in this respect I would say we share the same outlook. I'm happy to ask just about any question to see if there is a better/safer way to look after or use my vintage guns. No question is too dumb to ask at least once.
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When I use a drill and rod it is the drill I put in the vice. I think I get better control of my barrels and how they are getting clean by holding them in my hands. Also my brass rod has 2 inch wooden dowels spaced along it to prevent any contact of the brass and barrel walls.
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