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Wingshooter, I also like .005 and .015 or .020, and if I were to actually chose my chokes instead of just using the IC/MOD that came with my guns that is what I'd pick. I've read that to take advantage of two barrels, the chokes should be two constrictions apart to make a meaningful difference. Karl
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I do have one 12 gauge double which has .010" in both barrels. At the time it was built I believe this was referred to as 1/4 choke. "IF" I could only have one that would be it. That said though my Go To gun for a number of years has a .012/.024 combo. It has successfully killed Quail, Woodcock, Dove, Rabbit, Squirrel, Duck & a couple of Turkeys. It is 12 ga & has been loaded with from 1 oz to 1 3/8oz.It weighs in at about 7˝ lbs with 26" barrels which I have found that length to present no handicap to me at all.
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IC is probably best for most people if we're talking hunting. It covers the spread of distances at which most game birds are shot.
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Socialism is almost the worst.
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Why would you handicap yourself in a situation in which you would be better off with a modified choke, when you can drop (off the shelf) spreaders in the gun and shoot improved cylinder patterns? At $9/ box, shipped to your door, it's no big deal.
The chance of you being able to find a factory load that makes an IC shoot a M pattern is extremely slim. It's easy to go the other way, however. My belief is that I should have enough choke for most any situation. Besides that, tight chokes will make a better shooter out of you, if you're willing to do some clay shooting during the off season.
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0.010" for uplands. 12 ga to .410.
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Spreaders are kind of salty, not readily available and my grouse guru hunting buddy says they are game cripplers. I have no experience hunting with spreaders, but that's what he says. Have you hunted with spreaders, Stan?
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6 of my 9 M12's are full choked- the Pigeon Grade Trap is choked Imp. Mod-, almost Full-4 of the 5 L.C. Smiths are either M&F or F&F- all 12 gauges. As I mainly pass shoot waterfowl, and take soaring barn pigeons and crows in the off-seasons, I like the reach the full chokes give me--and I like 7&1/2" AA or RST loads. MY 20 gauge Sterlingworth, and the Model 12 in that gauge- mod and full, the M12 is modified.
I am NOT a skeet or SC shooter-so the IC and skeet and .010" chokes aren't my choice, nor do I hunt grouse or woodcock nowadays, and do not hunt over a close working pointing dog anymore.
I like to see pigeons and crows crumple up dead in the air, with a nice float of free-falling feathers in the air--and for my shooting style, a tight choke works best to achieve those results.
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buzz,
Hinterland Outfitters will ship as many flats as you're willing to buy to your door for $8.99, flat shipping fee. They're Fiocchi Interceptors, and I have patterned them on my grease plate with excellent results. There is nothing about the patterns I've seen that would lead me to believe that they are cripplers. I have not used them on game ..... yet. Main reason is that they are only available in 12 ga. and I very seldom use a 12 in the field for anything but ducks or turkeys, and that is a tighter choke game, for the most part. Besides, this is really a moot question. 99% of us have multiple choked guns we can use anyway.
The pattern plate tells the tale. There can be nothing about spreaders that would make them a game crippler that would not show up on the plate. The only other option is that someone tries to stretch the yardage too far with a spreader, but that's not the fault of the shell. From what I can see there is no difference in patterns from the Fiocchis than with a regular shell of the same payload out of a more open choke.
SRH
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