On the subject of bags, I saw a bag in Germany back in the 70's that a friend bought after taking the hunting class. It was the nicest bag I have ever seen. Lo and behold, I saw that same bag here on this board at one of the sites of a contributor. I think it may have been Robin Hollow Outfitters. Jack ????. Sorry, I can't remember names. I could have bought the bag and didn't and have regretted it ever since!! If was nice tan colored leather and once the flap was folded back there were about 6 or 8 shell loops right up next to the opening. It probably would have easily held 75 shells. Again, that one of those "wish I hads".