Karl, my views on ribs are continually evolving. I recently discovered that I i'm not particularly fond of even a thin file cut rib on an over and under. It is actually has a harder edge than on a SxS the way I like to hold when hunting. Give me a stub rib on an o/u and I am much happier to walk 7 miles with it in tow.

A piece that was to be auctioned in Gavin gardiner's upcoming sale, now, alas withdrawn! The most elegant stub rib I have encountered.

Owen