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https://stevebarnettfineguns.com/charles...xpress?rq=17732I love this gun, especially its uniqueness. Also, the wood grain and color are exactly what I have come to prefer. You cannot buy a blank of this kind of rich reddish-brown English walnut with the black streaking, today. But I really do love this coarse flat-topped checkering. Very functional, but also very attractive to my eye. JR
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Beesley designed Body action Lancaster. Self opening action. Yea, pretty unique. The original checkering was more than likely a round top diamond cut at approx 16 to 18 lpi at a 60 or 65 degree angle. This gun like most body actions carries a 0 prefix in the serial number...gun was probably not made at 151 New Bond St. London, but made in Birmingham by a trade maker like Osborne.
Coarse checkering is to my eye attractive too...and way more functional. Other makers thought the same...Dickson for example.
I know a very good stockmaker here in Utah that has probably 30 to 40 blanks that look like or look better than this guns. The blanks are out there.
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The wood seems pretty ordinary. Not sure what constitutes "non-fowling smooth oval bore SxS 500 Express". I can tell you that when Holland & Holland first reintroduced their Paradox gun they took it to Hungry for wild boar hunt. The article in British rifle magazine (cant remember which one) was not very kind to the product as they were not able to shoot anything on first day (target were running fast and too far away for iron only sights) they finally shot something on day two. This article was dressed up to make the weapon look better when published in American Double Gun Journal. What I see here is probably less practical than Holland Paradox or Westley Richards Fauneta. For $20,000 I would move on.
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The wood seems pretty ordinary. Not sure what constitutes "non-fowling smooth oval bore SxS 500 Express". I can tell you that when Holland & Holland first reintroduced their Paradox gun they took it to Hungry for wild boar hunt. The article in British rifle magazine (cant remember which one) was not very kind to the product as they were not able to shoot anything on first day (target were running fast and too far away for iron only sights) they finally shot something on day two. This article was dressed up to make the weapon look better when published in American Double Gun Journal. What I see here is probably less practical than Holland Paradox or Westley Richards Fauneta. For $20,000 I would move on. Let's be honest...at $20 you'd be moving on. STFU!!!
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The wood seems pretty ordinary. Not sure what constitutes "non-fowling smooth oval bore SxS 500 Express". I can tell you that when Holland & Holland first reintroduced their Paradox gun they took it to Hungry for wild boar hunt. The article in British rifle magazine (cant remember which one) was not very kind to the product as they were not able to shoot anything on first day (target were running fast and too far away for iron only sights) they finally shot something on day two. This article was dressed up to make the weapon look better when published in American Double Gun Journal. What I see here is probably less practical than Holland Paradox or Westley Richards Fauneta. For $20,000 I would move on. Let's be honest...at $20 you'd be moving on. STFU!!! Do your know the approximate value for this gun?
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Why would the value of this gun matter to you Jagermeister? I seriously doubt if Barnett will cater to a drooler and tire-kicker like you who wants to put guns on Layaway, and then back out of the deal a week or two later. You probably couldn't afford the down payment, and I also doubt if he would take Beanie Babies on a trade.
Why don't you show us the nice wood on that cheap Chinese .22 rifle you rent? Pallet grade, perhaps?
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I, too, prefer the flat top checkering over the sharp pyramids of mini-lines-per-inch checkering on the higher grades of high quality guns.
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Why would the value of this gun matter to you Jagermeister?
I was not familiar with "oval bore" so I looked it up. It seems "oval bore" 12ga, smoothbore shotgun should be worth more than cylindrical barreled one. This "oval bore" would be unique and nice for shooting: bunnies, ducks on water ptarmigan on the ground. Sort of like fancy survival SxS shotgun. I was just curious what solid projectile version might be worth. Do you have any idea of it's approximate worth (reasonable price)?
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Why would the value of this gun matter to you Jagermeister?
I was not familiar with "oval bore" so I looked it up. It seems "oval bore" 12ga, smoothbore shotgun should be worth more than cylindrical barreled one. This "oval bore" would be unique and nice for shooting: bunnies, ducks on water ptarmigan on the ground. Sort of like fancy survival SxS shotgun. I was just curious what solid projectile version might be worth. Do you have any idea of it's approximate worth (reasonable price)? Will you just stop...please!??? You do realize the gun in question is a double rifle right?? A 500 express DR to be exact??? NOT A SHOTGUN. ITS A RIFLE. Good lord man. You have no idea what the oval bore concept is but felt the desire to comment anyway like you knew what you were talking about? Go away JM...you're a complete idiot.
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Why would the value of this gun matter to you Jagermeister?
Will you just stop...please!??? Good lord man. You have no idea what the oval bore concept is but felt the desire to comment anyway like you knew what you were talking about? Go away JM...you're a complete idiot. I looked it up. Apparently the oval bore was designed so muzzleloaders would be more easily reloaded using "conical bullets". These were also easier to clean. The shotgun version ("Wildfowler's Elliptical Shot Barrel") was designed for enhanced lateral dispersion of shot. How much do you thing this solid projectile version is worth?
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